Vote for your Government!

Avatar · 05-31-2002, 12:00 PM

Vote for your type of Government with sooo many to choose from you are really spoilt for choice

AzureWolf · 05-31-2002, 12:32 PM

I voted for Tyranny, nothing like a good overlord to opress the people [img]smile.gif[/img]

Weisi didn't I tell you on MSN next time you made a poll in GD I would make you die slowly with lots of pain? [img]smile.gif[/img]

Neb · 05-31-2002, 12:33 PM

Tough choice, Tyranny, Ecotopia, Technocracy and Corporate Republic all sounded good.... Chose Ecotopia in the end, though.

Yorick · 05-31-2002, 12:35 PM

Avatar.... under communism everybody doesn't rule. It's an oligarchy. Democracy is where everyone rules.
We don't live in a democracy, we live in a representative democracy.

One of the few democracies ever to exist was in Iceland, where everyone met on the "allthing" - a big hill - to make the laws.
Not even ancient Greece was democratic. Women and slaves couldn't participate.

Regarding communism, I read this in a mad magazine once.

Bill - "Jack what's the defenition of capitalism?"
Jack - "Man exploiting man".
Bill - "Oh, so what's the defenition of communism"
Jack - "It's the other way round".

[img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

Anyhow, you can have democratic communism, or autocratic communism. Right Dramnek?

Like true democracy though, I believe communism is an unattainable utopia.

Yorick · 05-31-2002, 12:37 PM

Oh, and a true theocracy is run by God (Theos) not the church. A church led state is a oligarchial heirachy.

Pre-king Israel was a Theocracy.

Rikard_OHF · 05-31-2002, 12:59 PM

True Communism Avatar, if you ever took the time to study it, is not a form of goverment
It's a way of living.
True communism would be an anarchy since there is no need for a goverment if everybody takes care of everybody
True Communism is great but unfortunatly, due to human nature and preverence drift, impossible.

Democracy means everybody rules
in a Republic, you have an elected president that rules
in a Electorial Democracy, you have multiple leaders chosen by the people

DeSoya · 05-31-2002, 01:00 PM

I thought we lived in a representative constitutional republic?
To be a democracy we have to make some sweeping changes. [img]smile.gif[/img] It would be pretty cool. Apparently in the Grecian democracies, the man who became leader of the city was chosen from the populous. There was no political race, no speeches, no nothing. Just a vote. [img]smile.gif[/img] Of course cities were smaller so that was possible. I imagine you would hear about all the upstanding citizens.
I was just told the other day that the Greek root for the word idiot means private person, or someone who doesn't participate in the city life. Interesting huh!?!

DeSoya

05-31-2002, 01:18 PM

a true monarchy - with ME as your Emperor - BWAHAHAHA

Sazerac · 05-31-2002, 01:22 PM

I tend to agree about communism. It is an economic model, not a political one, although if you wish to argue that economics and politics are so entertwined that you can't tell where one leaves off and the other begins, I'll not say you nay. [img]smile.gif[/img]

It's the same with capitalism...economic model. Democracy, Totalitarianism, Monarchy, Oligarchy, etc. are political models.

-Sazerac

Yorick · 05-31-2002, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeSoya:
Apparently in the Grecian democracies, the man who became leader of the city was chosen from the populous.

Did you read my post? The women and slaves were excluded from lawmaking and voting. Does that sound like a democracy, where 'the populous' choose to you?

Or are only men in the populous in your opinion?

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05-31-2002, 12:35 PM	#4
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 52 Posts: 9,246	Avatar.... under communism everybody doesn't rule. It's an oligarchy. Democracy is where everyone rules. We don't live in a democracy, we live in a representative democracy. One of the few democracies ever to exist was in Iceland, where everyone met on the "allthing" - a big hill - to make the laws. Not even ancient Greece was democratic. Women and slaves couldn't participate. Regarding communism, I read this in a mad magazine once. Bill - "Jack what's the defenition of capitalism?" Jack - "Man exploiting man". Bill - "Oh, so what's the defenition of communism" Jack - "It's the other way round". [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] Anyhow, you can have democratic communism, or autocratic communism. Right Dramnek? Like true democracy though, I believe communism is an unattainable utopia. __________________ http://www.hughwilson.com

05-31-2002, 12:37 PM	#5
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 52 Posts: 9,246	Oh, and a true theocracy is run by God (Theos) not the church. A church led state is a oligarchial heirachy. Pre-king Israel was a Theocracy. __________________ http://www.hughwilson.com

05-31-2002, 12:59 PM	#6
Rikard_OHF Beholder Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Het Hertogdom Gelre!!!!! Age: 39 Posts: 4,364	True Communism Avatar, if you ever took the time to study it, is not a form of goverment It's a way of living. True communism would be an anarchy since there is no need for a goverment if everybody takes care of everybody True Communism is great but unfortunatly, due to human nature and preverence drift, impossible. Democracy means everybody rules in a Republic, you have an elected president that rules in a Electorial Democracy, you have multiple leaders chosen by the people __________________ [img]\"http://confed.xl-designs.com/siggeh18.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[bunny]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/bunny.gif\" /> Return of the Bunny Army! <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[bunny]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/bunny.gif\" />

05-31-2002, 01:00 PM	#7
DeSoya Manshoon Join Date: March 27, 2002 Location: Boulder, CO Age: 45 Posts: 199	I thought we lived in a representative constitutional republic? To be a democracy we have to make some sweeping changes. [img]smile.gif[/img] It would be pretty cool. Apparently in the Grecian democracies, the man who became leader of the city was chosen from the populous. There was no political race, no speeches, no nothing. Just a vote. [img]smile.gif[/img] Of course cities were smaller so that was possible. I imagine you would hear about all the upstanding citizens. I was just told the other day that the Greek root for the word idiot means private person, or someone who doesn't participate in the city life. Interesting huh!?! DeSoya __________________ \"We all enter this world in the same way: naked; screaming; soaked in blood. But if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn\'t have to stop there.\" <br />Dana Gould

05-31-2002, 12:32 PM	#2
AzureWolf 20th Level Warrior Join Date: May 3, 2001 Location: . Age: 40 Posts: 2,762	I voted for Tyranny, nothing like a good overlord to opress the people [img]smile.gif[/img] Weisi didn't I tell you on MSN next time you made a poll in GD I would make you die slowly with lots of pain? [img]smile.gif[/img]

05-31-2002, 12:33 PM	#3
Neb Account deleted by Request Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: . Age: 38 Posts: 8,802	Tough choice, Tyranny, Ecotopia, Technocracy and Corporate Republic all sounded good.... Chose Ecotopia in the end, though.

05-31-2002, 01:18 PM	#8
Lord Shield Guest Posts: n/a	a true monarchy - with ME as your Emperor - BWAHAHAHA

05-31-2002, 01:22 PM	#9
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	I tend to agree about communism. It is an economic model, not a political one, although if you wish to argue that economics and politics are so entertwined that you can't tell where one leaves off and the other begins, I'll not say you nay. [img]smile.gif[/img] It's the same with capitalism...economic model. Democracy, Totalitarianism, Monarchy, Oligarchy, etc. are political models. -Sazerac __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

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