unconditional love

I always thought unconditional love was when you love someone utterly and don't expect anything.
(Sometimes you don't get anything either, but it should never stop you from feeling that love...just don't let yourself be their doormat)

[Debaser]

i think the older you get, the more difficult it becomes to find unconditional love when it comes to man-woman relationships. having been screwed over and hurt by girls in the past, i feel almost like i approach every prospective relationship with a proverbial chip on my shoulder. i think that you enter the realm of 'love' (non-platonic) with a whole lot of idealism and faith in people, and that slowly gets stripped away more and more as you move from relationship to relationship and things infallibly fall apart in the end. i know this sounds jaded and what not, but it's the way i feel, and i think people in general (myself included, probably) are too inherently selfish to put their balls on the line, so to speak, and give themselves to truly unconditionally loving someone. i dare say i've felt unconditional love for one girl before.......in the end, she completely shit upon everything we had. no surprises there.

the most common type of unconditional love, in my opinion, is not of the romantic variety at all. it is the love that parents have for their kids...even though i can't fully grasp it, i guesss, because i'm only 21 and not planning to have kids any time remotely soon.

Debaser,
Love (thank-goodness!) becomes an easier concept to grasp as you get older.
(Do expect issues on both sides though, but don't let them get in the way of happiness if you can help it, and both sides have to be willing to work for the relationship) Good Luck [img]smile.gif[/img]

You're right about the love that parents have for their kids.

I was just telling someone yesterday about a hellish incident my son's father and his parents put me through when I was nearly killed in an auto accident. Not only did I sell everything I owned and traveled across this country to make sure they did not take my son, but I also stood up to his girlfriend when she invited me to a fistfight over him. (I am 5'4"-ish and she is 5'8"...I weigh 98 lbs and she, around 160)...I looked her straight in the eye and asked her if she wanted to fight me over my son. Her face immediately drained of all color and she backed down (while I was thinking I was going to get creamed for asking!).
I'd "kill" for that man if I had to...that's just the way it is...we love our kids and want the best for them and won't let anything or anyone get in the way if we can help it.

Another great example of unconditional love is shown by well cared for pets for their owners.
Gotta love the animals....they could teach humans a lot.

[Cerek the Barbaric]

I can only think of two examples of truly unconditional love.

The first is the love between a parent and a child. As Moni pointed out, you will do anything for your children and woe unto anyone who threatens them. And the child loves the parent unconditionally. They think you are the greatest and most beautiful/handsome person on the face of the earth. They love you simply for being you.


The second example is the ONLY example of perfectly unconditional love - and that is the love that God has for all of us. We are His children and He loves each of us completely and unconditionally - just like any parent loves their children. Whether you love Him back or not is irrelevant. Even if you choose not to believe in Him, that's OK...He still loves you. That is the one, truly perfect love.

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I am in an eternal torment of love. Those that know me really well on IW and MSN will know....

I know I love somone unconditionally..

I don't expect them to love me back...

Just that they are happy

[jabidas]

This may mildly offend but what the hell if you dont like you can disregard.

Love is a myth invented by poets and other people who couldnt face the world and crept off into corners to create fantasies to console themselves. The fact is when you meet another entity you make way for it or it makes way for you.Either you dominate it and it submits or it dominates you and you submit. Love? Equality? Acceptance? those are the excuses of losers, to persuade themselves they chose a situation and wernt beat into it. The mother and the child? An endless power struggle. Listen to the infants cry change when a mother dosnt come at once. Is that fear you here? Its rage -insane fury at not having total dominance. As for the mother herself, Id wager that ninty percentof the married women in psychiatrist's care are there because they cant admit to themselves, cant escape the lie of love long enough to admit to themselves how often they want to strangle that little monster in the nursery. Love of country? another lie: the truth is fear of cops and prisons. Love of art? another lie: The fear of naked truth without ornaments and false faces on it. Love of truth itself? The biggest lie of all: fear of the unknown. People learn acceptance of all this and achieve wisdom? They surrender to superior force and call their cowardice maturity. It still coes down to one question: Are you kneeling at the Alter or are you at the alter watching other kneel down to you.
You see everything is a lie, sentimental slop and lies. All the christian lies in sunday school, all the democratic lies in the newspapers, all the socialist lies our so called intellectuals arespouting these days. Every rotten, crooked, sneaky, hypocritical deception people use to hide from themselves that were still hunting animals in a jungle. I hate it all.


This was a summarisation of something I read. I see a certain honesty in it, any comments please?

[ 11-16-2001: Message edited by: jabidas ]

[Neb]

Well, Jabidas, I wouldn't call it true, I certainly feel that I am very much in love at the moment.

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jabidas

I dont know who wrote it, but he sounds like a loser himself

[Amergin]

love is a delusion we choose to believe from time to time. heartache is nothing more than the disappointment of having your bubble burst like when someone wakes you up from a good dream; it wasnt real and you knew it, and the closer you think it is to "perfect" the greater the pain.

"a maiden's heart is restless wind, a laughing careless breeze.
the chilling truth whispered to him, helpless on his knees.
in vain he sought to win her favor; he threw away his pride.
he fought and won a million battles; still he felt denied."
- the white animals (an excellent but obscure band)

[KHaN]

Interesting discussion. Define Love. Well, for starters it isn't that rush you get when you first become attracted to someone, when they enter or leave a room, you know, I think that is the happiness & contentment from the thought that someone in life wants to share theirs with you (even if you leave the toilet lid up from time to time). Love definatly isn't when you can't stop thinking about someone sexually, that's lust...which ain't a bad thing if the other person feels the same way . Love isn't when you do something for someone and expect something in return, that is just the everyday manipulations that are the cornerstone of human interactions.

I think love is when you wake up on a cool fall day and walk outside and see the vast blue sky...not a cloud in it, so beautiful it looks like a living painting. I think love is when you could be living a better life but are willing to reduce your standard of living because others are depending on you for food and shelter (especially the little critters [img]smile.gif[/img] ) I think love is when you look at someone else and don't see height, skincolor, big or small, red or blonde hair...but a fellow brother or sister who you would share your last bowl of food with, without a second thought. Well that's what I think at least...

[ 11-17-2001: Message edited by: KHaN ]