Use Magic Device= More than just wands and spells!

Nanobyte · 10-13-2002, 02:04 AM

This is upon experiment, so there might be a chance it is a simple glitch, but rogue's can use more than just wands and spells with their Use Magic Device skills. All weapons and armor with an enchantment (+1, +2, fire damage) falls under this category as well; meaning, that rogues can use practically anything in the game, whereas others are restricted by their feat capabalities.

SpiritWarrior · 10-13-2002, 03:39 AM

Hmmmm? You mean a rogue can use a magical two-handed blade with no penalties even if he/she is not proficient with such a weapon at all?

Luvian · 10-13-2002, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nanobyte:
This is upon experiment, so there might be a chance it is a simple glitch, but rogue's can use more than just wands and spells with their Use Magic Device skills. All weapons and armor with an enchantment (+1, +2, fire damage) falls under this category as well; meaning, that rogues can use practically anything in the game, whereas others are restricted by their feat capabalities.

I think you are mistaken. Any characters can equip any weapons in the game, but if they have no points in them, they will have a penalty.

Nanobyte · 10-13-2002, 04:43 AM

So can you tell me why a regular PC can not equip Emma Moonblade's blade, yet a rogue can? I checked her feats, rogues are not trained in the exotic weapon area. Besides, I never mentioned anything of penalties, I just stated that they can use certain items, in this case the moonblade, when others, who are not trained, can not.

[ 10-13-2002, 04:45 AM: Message edited by: Nanobyte ]

Luvian · 10-13-2002, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nanobyte:
So can you tell me why a regular PC can not equip Emma Moonblade's blade, yet a rogue can? I checked her feats, rogues are not trained in the exotic weapon area. Besides, I never mentioned anything of penalties, I just stated that they can use certain items, in this case the moonblade, when others, who are not trained, can not.

The moonblade is a Large Sword, not a Bastard sword.

It can be equiped by any good character. Even my sorceress can. It just mean that your regular PC is not good, while your rogue is.

[ 10-13-2002, 06:46 AM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

Nightowl2 · 10-13-2002, 11:49 AM

Luvian is quite right. If you scroll down the description for the sword, it will say "Usable by" and the first requirement is Good alignment. Anyone of the pure neutral (True, Lawful, Chaotic) or evil alignments won't be able to equip this item.

Nightowl2

Nanobyte · 10-13-2002, 01:18 PM

Hmm.. For some reason I was thinking of it as a bastard sword. Ah well. It was, after all, just an experiment.

Meriadoc Brandybuck · 10-14-2002, 07:01 AM

well some clear outs ...

it looks like they recalculate the feature - it isn't compareable with neverwinter nights - were it was awesome!!!

1st.
my rogue wasn't able to use scrolls ... even with level 16 (my game max and 20 skill points in it it wasn't possible

2nd
my rogue wasn't to use a single resticted item (beside wands) no rings, no weapons , no amulets ....

Faba du Paryse · 10-18-2002, 07:30 AM

I encounterd the same problem,
My thief can't use anything magical.

10-13-2002, 03:39 AM	#2
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Hmmmm? You mean a rogue can use a magical two-handed blade with no penalties even if he/she is not proficient with such a weapon at all? __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

10-14-2002, 07:01 AM	#8
Meriadoc Brandybuck Manshoon Join Date: October 11, 2001 Location: The Shire Age: 46 Posts: 180	well some clear outs ... it looks like they recalculate the feature - it isn't compareable with neverwinter nights - were it was awesome!!! 1st. my rogue wasn't able to use scrolls ... even with level 16 (my game max and 20 skill points in it it wasn't possible 2nd my rogue wasn't to use a single resticted item (beside wands) no rings, no weapons , no amulets .... __________________ no i\'m not a multiple class character<br /><br />i\'m just schizophrenic

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10-13-2002, 02:04 AM	#1
Nanobyte Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: NC Age: 38 Posts: 2,890	This is upon experiment, so there might be a chance it is a simple glitch, but rogue's can use more than just wands and spells with their Use Magic Device skills. All weapons and armor with an enchantment (+1, +2, fire damage) falls under this category as well; meaning, that rogues can use practically anything in the game, whereas others are restricted by their feat capabalities.

10-13-2002, 04:43 AM	#4
Nanobyte Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: NC Age: 38 Posts: 2,890	So can you tell me why a regular PC can not equip Emma Moonblade's blade, yet a rogue can? I checked her feats, rogues are not trained in the exotic weapon area. Besides, I never mentioned anything of penalties, I just stated that they can use certain items, in this case the moonblade, when others, who are not trained, can not. [ 10-13-2002, 04:45 AM: Message edited by: Nanobyte ]

10-13-2002, 11:49 AM	#6
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 46 Posts: 2,190	Luvian is quite right. If you scroll down the description for the sword, it will say "Usable by" and the first requirement is Good alignment. Anyone of the pure neutral (True, Lawful, Chaotic) or evil alignments won't be able to equip this item. Nightowl2

10-13-2002, 01:18 PM	#7
Nanobyte Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: NC Age: 38 Posts: 2,890	Hmm.. For some reason I was thinking of it as a bastard sword. Ah well. It was, after all, just an experiment.

10-18-2002, 07:30 AM	#9
Faba du Paryse Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: June 20, 2002 Location: Limbo-land Age: 48 Posts: 15	I encounterd the same problem, My thief can't use anything magical.

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