SAG and possible death for Left Wing

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by MagiK: J.D. We all have the freedom to act. What we lackis the "right" to avoid consequences of those actions.

In the over all sense that we can choose for ourselves what we are going to do as Humans, yes we all have the freedom to act. But In the sense used as "Freedom of speach" = right, ability to say something. We don't have the freedom to act = right, ability to do something. We are still subject to the what the law says we can and can't do.

[ 03-07-2003, 09:57 AM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]

[Donut]

Originally posted by The Hierophant: Quote: Originally posted by HolyWarrior: Those people WERE traitors, and it's time to bring back HUAC to deal with the current ones.

hmmm, 170 posts so far Holywarrior. I wonder how many of them contain the word 'traitor'.
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TRAITORS! TRAITORS EVERYWHERE!!!!!![/QUOTE]Most of the recent ones contain the acronym HUAC. At least this one is an advance on 'Bring back the HUAC'

Originally posted by Davros: Quote: Originally posted by MagiK: Davros, I think that what you have heard about McCarthyism (I dont even know if Im spelling his name right) and black balling, and oppression going on here is pretty much a load of codswallop.

Seriously - on this occasion, I am hoping that MagiK is the one that has the right of things this time and that McCarthyism stays well and truly dead.

**SNIP stuff about actors***.

Did I actually say codswallop?

I really don't think there is any pressure from washington being put on these actors or shows. The American public on the other hand is not constrained at all about saying what they think about the show or the actor...and that is part of being a public figure is about...if you make a personal stand...be prepared for the american public to let you know that they think...calling names, boycoting etc...why do you think you can almost never pin a politician down about what he personally believes?[/QUOTE]

[ 03-10-2003, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

[Sir Taliesin]

I don't mind actors and singers protesting, but what I do mind is that I have no way to respond to them on the same level. When they get on these awards shows and state their case it's a one sided debate.

BTW, just exactly what is CODSWALLOP? Is it bad sperm for the cods or what?

[ 03-10-2003, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Sir Taliesin ]

[Timber Loftis]

Well, Sir T., the good news is that while you can't platform like they can, you also don't end up looking as stoopid. Sheryl Crow is a wonderful artist, but her ineptitude for public protest was seen when her hair covered part of the protest message on her guitar strap at the Grammys: The message resulting was simply "War."

Fred Durst was equally stoopid (when wasn't he?) in stating "Just so we are all in agreeance" about the war protest. That's right - "agreeance." www.dictionary.com , Fred, please. When you speak at the Grammy's, you need a better vocabulary than "break something."

Let us not forget Sean Penn, the new mellenium's poster boy for non-aggression, who has now admitted he was used by Saddam.

So, while these folks have a platform to speak from, they all end up looking about as smart as Dan Quayle did when he voiced his opinion on Murphy Brown.

For the same reason I wouldn't care what Tom Ridge thought about imagery in "The Hours," I do not care what Martin Sheen thinks about war in Iraq. While Sheen is a fine actor, a year spent drinking in the Phillipines with Marlin Brando while making a war flick does not equate to being a soldier and playing Sorkin's pipe dream of what Clinton should have been [fn.1] on West/Left Wing in no way educates one about the facts behind US/Iraq politics. Puh-lease, when he speaks out about the war I am stricken by the fact that he looks immensely more intelligent when clumsily hitting on that young blonde chick in the video store on the "Visa Check Card" commercial.

[fn.1] Credit to Attalus for this biting comment. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: I do not care what Martin Sheen thinks about war in Iraq. While Sheen is a fine actor, a year spent drinking in the Phillipines with Marlin Brando while making a war flick does not equate to being a soldier

I don't know about that TL drinking with Marlin Brando could be considered a pretty tough duty station.

[Timber Loftis]

Fair enough, John D. The "flick" is of course Apocalypse Now. I did read that things got pretty hairy on the set during a tropical storm that shut things down for two weeks. Purportedly, things weren't so bad until the vodka ran out.