Magic personnel necessary? - Page 2

PAPS · 08-29-2002, 09:54 AM

In both Baldur Gate I and II, I have NEVER used a mage to win both games in my parties, and winning both games was a breeze. As for Yoshi, once he is gone later in the game, you wont need a thief anyways to win the game, you can force what few chests open that you need to get into.

Kaltia · 08-29-2002, 09:58 AM

In the levels after yoshi, Imoen is perfectly fine; never had a problem with her.

Zarr · 08-29-2002, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vedran:
There is no decent thief in the game. Jan is dork, but we are forced to take him. Make a bounty hunter or assassin and import him in the game.
Raising dead and identification is hard without cleric and mage.

No decent thief in the game? I would have to disagree Jan is a decent thief although his armour class is very high.

LOCKSAW · 08-29-2002, 03:23 PM

Thanks for the info. I lied in saying that I have no magic users in my group, because Anomen and Keldorn can both use priest spells. So I guess I am trying to avoid the use of mages..

Thats a bummer about Yoshimo being the best theif in the game. His dialogue is beginning to bother me. Anomen is also bugging me. Maybe I will trade him for Korgan. Its always good to have someone evil around.

SixOfSpades · 08-29-2002, 06:39 PM

The thread about the Thief MOD in the making is on this forum, under the title: Come and vote on our new Thief MOD! But it won't be made for several months, so you can forget about putting any of the new NPCs in your current lineup....

Soluafein is a Fighter/Mage, not a Fighter/Thief. Valen, another NPC by the same author, is a Fighter/Thief.

As for those who think there are no decent Thieves in the game already: Apart from his Bounty Hunter kit, there's not a thing I don't like about Yoshimo. 18 DEX, and great STR and CON as well? Hello? And for those who complain about Jan's poor AC: He can wear armor besides the set he came with, you know.

Actually, Keldorn doesn't have any Priest spells. He has the True Sight and Dispel Magic special abilities, but he has no Priest Scroll.

Aurum · 08-29-2002, 07:42 PM

The mages and sorcerers is very offensive attack, to difference the cleric that is defensives and healers, without they, it you sure of have potions sufficient.

Vedran · 08-30-2002, 05:40 AM

Nalia - mage, not thief (4th level is to low);
Yoshimo - bounty hunter has good traps - I like traps, but he is fool and traitor (I slay him as soon as I meet him), and his thieving skills per level are low;
Imoen - she is 5 levels below me when I get to her (she is a minor thief and whines too much);
Jan - He is mage-thief which is a combination I found efficient, but I am NOT to suffer his anecdotes and turnips through all the game!

Solution:
Make a multiplayer game,
Create your main character,
Create a thief,
Start game, then save and exit,
Find the saved game in your MPSAVE folder and move it to SAVE folder.

This takes some interesting conversations from the game, but I've seen the most of them and it's not a problem of me.

TaSSaDaR · 08-30-2002, 05:51 AM

A spoiler question - if you kill Yoshimo, will he appear later in the game, bringing forth all the trouble?

Dundee Slaytern · 08-30-2002, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TaSSaDaR:
A spoiler question - if you kill Yoshimo, will he appear later in the game, bringing forth all the trouble?

No.

pcgiant · 08-30-2002, 06:53 AM

I thought Jan was a very cool character, I enjoyed his stories and liked his skills.
The key word here is ~thought.~
Has anyone here heard his vicious, rude and entirely uncalled-for swipe at Keldorn's family?
I kicked him after that.

08-29-2002, 09:58 AM	#12
Kaltia Jack Burton Join Date: May 2, 2002 Location: Canterbury, England Age: 36 Posts: 5,817	In the levels after yoshi, Imoen is perfectly fine; never had a problem with her. __________________ The wolf is as cunning as he is ferocious; once he's had a taste of flesh then nothing else will do.

08-29-2002, 06:39 PM	#15
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	The thread about the Thief MOD in the making is on this forum, under the title: Come and vote on our new Thief MOD! But it won't be made for several months, so you can forget about putting any of the new NPCs in your current lineup.... Soluafein is a Fighter/Mage, not a Fighter/Thief. Valen, another NPC by the same author, is a Fighter/Thief. As for those who think there are no decent Thieves in the game already: Apart from his Bounty Hunter kit, there's not a thing I don't like about Yoshimo. 18 DEX, and great STR and CON as well? Hello? And for those who complain about Jan's poor AC: He can wear armor besides the set he came with, you know. Actually, Keldorn doesn't have any Priest spells. He has the True Sight and Dispel Magic special abilities, but he has no Priest Scroll. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

08-29-2002, 07:42 PM	#16
Aurum Manshoon Join Date: March 15, 2001 Location: Shangrila ; (Torreon, Coahuila, Mexico). Age: 46 Posts: 248	The mages and sorcerers is very offensive attack, to difference the cleric that is defensives and healers, without they, it you sure of have potions sufficient. __________________ \"Cuando el mundo de los muertos venga, nosotros ya estaremos ahi\"<br /> Sir Aurum D\'Yave<br /> Knight of Realm of Shangrila<br /> Order of Gemini

08-30-2002, 05:40 AM	#17
Vedran Lord Soth Join Date: July 28, 2002 Location: Sisak, Croatia Age: 39 Posts: 1,930	Nalia - mage, not thief (4th level is to low); Yoshimo - bounty hunter has good traps - I like traps, but he is fool and traitor (I slay him as soon as I meet him), and his thieving skills per level are low; Imoen - she is 5 levels below me when I get to her (she is a minor thief and whines too much); Jan - He is mage-thief which is a combination I found efficient, but I am NOT to suffer his anecdotes and turnips through all the game! Solution: Make a multiplayer game, Create your main character, Create a thief, Start game, then save and exit, Find the saved game in your MPSAVE folder and move it to SAVE folder. This takes some interesting conversations from the game, but I've seen the most of them and it's not a problem of me. __________________ Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, adhuc dulcius pro patria vivere. (It is sweet and glorius to die for one's homeland, even sweeter to live for it) Horatio

08-30-2002, 05:51 AM	#18
TaSSaDaR Baaz Draconian Join Date: August 27, 2002 Location: Russia Age: 38 Posts: 734	A spoiler question - if you kill Yoshimo, will he appear later in the game, bringing forth all the trouble? __________________ En taro Adun!<br />En taro, mighty Tassadar!

08-29-2002, 09:54 AM	#11
PAPS Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 27, 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 25	In both Baldur Gate I and II, I have NEVER used a mage to win both games in my parties, and winning both games was a breeze. As for Yoshi, once he is gone later in the game, you wont need a thief anyways to win the game, you can force what few chests open that you need to get into.

08-29-2002, 03:23 PM	#14
LOCKSAW Welcomed New User Join Date: August 28, 2002 Location: New Mexico Age: 32 Posts: 3	Thanks for the info. I lied in saying that I have no magic users in my group, because Anomen and Keldorn can both use priest spells. So I guess I am trying to avoid the use of mages.. Thats a bummer about Yoshimo being the best theif in the game. His dialogue is beginning to bother me. Anomen is also bugging me. Maybe I will trade him for Korgan. Its always good to have someone evil around.

08-30-2002, 06:53 AM	#20
pcgiant Symbol of Cyric Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: NZ Age: 37 Posts: 1,268	I thought Jan was a very cool character, I enjoyed his stories and liked his skills. The key word here is ~thought.~ Has anyone here heard his vicious, rude and entirely uncalled-for swipe at Keldorn's family? I kicked him after that. __________________ If possible, I want to relive my life... not as a devil. This time, someone like you.

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