Visit the Ironworks Gaming Website Email the Webmaster Graphics Library Rules and Regulations Help Support Ironworks Forum with a Donation to Keep us Online - We rely totally on Donations from members Donation goal Meter

Ironworks Gaming Radio

Ironworks Gaming Forum

Go Back   Ironworks Gaming Forum > Ironworks Gaming Forums > General Discussion
FAQ Calendar Arcade Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-15-2004, 03:08 PM   #1
Morgeruat
Jack Burton
 

Join Date: October 16, 2001
Location: PA
Age: 43
Posts: 5,421
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, as i didn't see it on this page, and I don't visit GD, so here goes.

As most of us know the FCC was never intended to regulate content, it was formed to regulate frequencies of transmissions and establish a standard that electronics would operate on, anyone who's used electronics has operated under the jurisdiction of the FCC, from things like computer speakers to TV's, radios, phones, etc, content control should not be the FCC's job, nor should regulating said content necessarily be in the hands of the Gov't. That power is held by the individuals, Howard Stern was pulled from the airways for a number of reasons (decency has been cited, as well as his lack of support for Pres Bush -> Clearchannel radio is a very strong Bush supporter) Janet Jackson's Superbowl actions have also been cited.

The knee jerk reaction is "Why hasn't someone protected me from this indecent attack against me" the answer is that that power rests with you, you have the power to turn off your tv, radio, internet, if something offends you, get out and do something about it, don't call for the government to regulate it, get involved in your hometown, start a petition to boycott offensive programming, write the networks, and get your friends to write as well, hell sue the networks for exposing you to such offensive content, letting the government legislate morality to us is wrong, as wrong as doing nothing when something is wrong. Personally the government has enough power, and is already bloated and inefficient, to grant more power to a beuroctacy that isn't already designed for this type of thing will only make the problem worse.

After granting the power to regulate what is decent on TV or radio what's to stop small but vocal groups from bringing other things into question as immoral, or indecent. I play AD&D, many religious groups consider it to be satanic, what's to stop them from twisting a loophole in the law (and there always are loopholes in any law) to say that my printed (or pdf) copies of gaming material is indecent and should be banned? or to stop them from banning anything that a small but vocal group finds intolerable.

The following site is an online petition to stop the gov't from granting those kinds of regulatory powers to the FCC. http://www.stopfcc.com/

thank you for your time.
__________________
"Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison
Morgeruat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2004, 04:08 PM   #2
Son of Osiris
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
I agree! A little bit of cencorship is fine, but they're going too far! They just want to take away freedom of speech!

Not only is THAT link against cencorship, there's also www.eff.org

Fight for your freedom of speech!
[img]graemlins/braveheart.gif[/img]
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2004, 09:55 AM   #3
ryaldin
Elminster
 

Join Date: April 23, 2002
Location: Helena, MT
Age: 40
Posts: 458
Quote:
Originally posted by The Whackmiester:
A little bit of cencorship is fine
What?!

There's nothing about the restriction of rights and freedoms that has any aspect of acceptibility. I don't understand what you mean. Clarify?
__________________
[img]\"http://userpic.livejournal.com/10817323/260901\" alt=\" - \" /><br />\"My style? You could call it the art of fighting without really fighting.\"<br /><br />\"Something vexes thee?\"
ryaldin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2004, 09:59 PM   #4
Son of Osiris
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally posted by ryaldin:
quote:
Originally posted by The Whackmiester:
A little bit of cencorship is fine
What?!

There's nothing about the restriction of rights and freedoms that has any aspect of acceptibility. I don't understand what you mean. Clarify?
[/QUOTE]Just a pinch. You know, not TOTAL cencorship...just enough to keep Porn out of the hands of minors and kick the crap out of racism.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2004, 10:00 PM   #5
Son of Osiris
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Going TOO FAR is at the point where you can't say what you want without some piece of crap saying "You can't say that."
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2004, 10:02 PM   #6
Son of Osiris
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Or denying religious groups their freedom of speech. Does anyone recall when they ripped out that statue of the Ten Commandments? Taking it out of there was a prime example of too much cencorship.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2004, 11:31 PM   #7
The Hierophant
Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom
 

Join Date: May 10, 2002
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand.
Age: 42
Posts: 2,860
Quote:
Originally posted by The Whackmiester:
Going TOO FAR is at the point where you can't say what you want without some piece of crap saying "You can't say that."
Ok, so what if I were to say "All niggers must die! Give porn to children!"? Then by your censorship standards you would tell me "You can't say that!". You would censor my racist and pro-porn remarks, wouldn't you? You censoring 'piece of crap'!

No, censorship is absolutely counter-faced to freedom of speech, you can't advocate both. Which do you stand for?

As a side note, I'm interested as to how censorship would "kick the crap out of racism". How would restricting what people are allowed to say stop racial prejudice? Explain, and make it good.

[ 03-20-2004, 02:23 AM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]
__________________
[img]\"hosted/Hierophant.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Strewth!
The Hierophant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2004, 06:49 AM   #8
skywalker
Banned User
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: VT, USA
Age: 63
Posts: 3,097
Quote:
Originally posted by The Whackmiester:
Or denying religious groups their freedom of speech. Does anyone recall when they ripped out that statue of the Ten Commandments? Taking it out of there was a prime example of too much cencorship.
Not supposed to debate religion here. But for the record, the 10 Commandments incident was not censorship. The statue could have been placed anywhere on private property - not on Government property. Ever heard of the separation of Church and State? The momument could be construed as support of one form of religion by that court which is illegal.

My 2 cents.

Mark
skywalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2004, 10:06 AM   #9
Son of Osiris
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally posted by The Hierophant:
quote:
Originally posted by The Whackmiester:
Going TOO FAR is at the point where you can't say what you want without some piece of crap saying "You can't say that."
Ok, so what if I were to say "All niggers must die! Give porn to children!"? Then by your censorship standards you would tell me "You can't say that!". You would censor my racist and pro-porn remarks, wouldn't you? You censoring 'piece of crap'!

No, censorship is absolutely counter-faced to freedom of speech, you can't advocate both. Which do you stand for?

As a side note, I'm interested as to how censorship would "kick the crap out of racism". How would restricting what people are allowed to say stop racial prejudice? Explain, and make it good.
[/QUOTE](( People with Heart Conditions, watch out! I'm about to get nasty! ))

You got me there. I guess the only way to stop this racist bullcrap without cencorship is to shove firecrackers up their nazi/kkk asses! That works too!

Thanks for clearing that up, Heirophant. My head was up my ass on this issue until you came along. [img]smile.gif[/img]

MY MESSAGE TO THE FCC:

Kiss my Greasy Red-and-White Ass, Commies! [img]graemlins/moon.gif[/img]
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2004, 10:07 AM   #10
Son of Osiris
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally posted by skywalker:
quote:
Originally posted by The Whackmiester:
Or denying religious groups their freedom of speech. Does anyone recall when they ripped out that statue of the Ten Commandments? Taking it out of there was a prime example of too much cencorship.
Not supposed to debate religion here. But for the record, the 10 Commandments incident was not censorship. The statue could have been placed anywhere on private property - not on Government property. Ever heard of the separation of Church and State? The momument could be construed as support of one form of religion by that court which is illegal.

My 2 cents.

Mark
[/QUOTE]Oh.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Censorship Morgeruat General Discussion 2 03-15-2005 06:39 PM
Censorship in the media Donut General Discussion 41 06-29-2004 03:09 PM
The end of after-midnight censorship on basic cable in the U.S.? Chewbacca General Discussion 7 07-08-2003 11:01 AM
Offensiveness and Censorship Diogenes Of Pumpkintown General Discussion 69 10-23-2001 10:09 PM
What's with Censorship in this forum?! Night Blade Wizards & Warriors Forum 11 05-17-2001 10:07 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2024 Ironworks Gaming & ©2024 The Great Escape Studios TM - All Rights Reserved