BMI, the gaging of Americans?

Felix The Assassin · 01-26-2006, 08:50 PM

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm
[img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] I have heard this may become a new quick standard for health insurance folks.
Now, I'm not into media hype, nor conspiracy theories, but...If the CDC is posting this, then placing a disclaimer it is not/should not be used as a single test for BMI all on the same site...Phht!

Anyhow, I guess I'm just plain Obese!
But not to worry, it does not take into account your OVERALL condition. Really? So, the HMO mafia is going to send someone to your house to investigate your OVERALL condition? Right.

6'1"
235 lbs
BMI=31 = Obese!

1.87M
108Kg
BMI=30.9 =Still Obese!

In order to be middle "normal" I can only weigh 180 lbs.
[img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img]

Ilander · 01-26-2006, 09:05 PM

Shaquille O'Neal: 7'1" 325 lbs
BMI = 30.1 = obese

George W Bush: 6'0" 190 lbs
BMI = 25.8 = overwieght

Me: 5'7" 190 lbs
BMI = 30.5 = obese

Right...

So, I know for fact that I'm a bit pudgy...but if I lost as much weight as I could imagine losing...30 pounds, leaving me at 160, my muscle-mass pushes me into the "overweight" category.

These things never, NEVER take muscle mass into account. And that's how the CDC has defined obesity for at least the last five years.

But, at least I'm only as obese as Shaq.

Gangrell · 01-26-2006, 09:11 PM

Ohh boy, this oughta be good for me.

Me: 6'3" 262 lbs.
BMI = 32.7

You're right Ilander, these things never take muscle mass into account whenever it comes to weight. I've got a large bone frame, but according to this, I could be 200 lbs. and still be overweight.

Sir Degrader · 01-26-2006, 09:15 PM

Anyone know they why do it? I mean, isn't it better to take into account bodyfat%?

Ilander · 01-26-2006, 09:30 PM

Yes, yes it is, Sir Degrader...though it is indeed ture that bigger people, even if they're muscular and trim, have a bit more cardiovascular strain...but calling them "obese" for it seems a bit of a misnomer.

Basically speaking, people don't know their heads from holes in the ground when talking about weight and obesity.

robertthebard · 01-26-2006, 09:45 PM

Well, I'm obese at my current weight, which isn't surprising really. I've packed on a couple extra pounds during my extended illness. However, I was still considered overweight at my prime:
5' 9" 185lbs. Make me laugh. Here's the trick to that. I worked physically hard for a living before I got sick, and that means that my cardio workout was way up there, as well as my strength "training". I was a carpenter, moving fast, and carrying what I had to carry to do the job. The point is, if you get to a fit weight that puts you into one of those categories, your whole body is fit, not just your physical appearance.

Firestormalpha · 01-26-2006, 10:14 PM

Hmm..
5'9" and 170lbs.
BMI: 25.1 (just barely overweight)

But again, without taking into account bone structure, lean mass vs. fat, as well as the cholesterol factor.

Just what exactly are they thinking? It's almost as bad as the people out there looking for the cure all, make me beautiful and slim pill.

Sir Degrader · 01-26-2006, 10:17 PM

19.8, and that's overestimating my weight I think. Ah well. I'm still happy with my 10-13% bodyfat, even if I've stopped my daily 6-8k runs.

Mack_Attack · 01-26-2006, 10:46 PM

Over wight here. Kinda thought that since my ass is 5 feet wide. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

My job does not help. I sit in front of 8 computer screens. Wearing slippers. [img]smile.gif[/img]

TheCrimsomBlade · 01-26-2006, 10:52 PM

This system doesn't take in any factor like Muscle
vs body fat because I'm 6'2" and weigh 267 yet just
5 Days ago I had my yearly complete physical
and my body fat was only 4%! I have lifted weights
most of my life and still only have a 28" waist and
a 58" chest and yet the Calculator says my BMI is 34.3
and I'm Obese yet my doctor says other than my knees
having both been replaced that I'm in better health
physically than 80% of his patients not to mention
alot stronger then all of them.
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see any other
calculation to be considered in the equation
so this system is a bit flawed or did I miss something
that needed to be added.?

Never mind in reading further I find that this scale
is only a single part of the test for health and I'm
not considered to be Obese. Leave it to me to only
read half the artical

[ 01-26-2006, 11:05 PM: Message edited by: TheCrimsomBlade ]

01-26-2006, 08:50 PM	#1
Felix The Assassin The Dreadnoks Join Date: September 27, 2001 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 61 Posts: 3,608	http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] I have heard this may become a new quick standard for health insurance folks. Now, I'm not into media hype, nor conspiracy theories, but...If the CDC is posting this, then placing a disclaimer it is not/should not be used as a single test for BMI all on the same site...Phht! Anyhow, I guess I'm just plain Obese! But not to worry, it does not take into account your OVERALL condition. Really? So, the HMO mafia is going to send someone to your house to investigate your OVERALL condition? Right. 6'1" 235 lbs BMI=31 = Obese! 1.87M 108Kg BMI=30.9 =Still Obese! In order to be middle "normal" I can only weigh 180 lbs. [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] __________________ The Lizzie Palmer Tribute Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. John F. Kennedy 35th President of The United States The Last Shot Honor The Fallen Jesus died for our sins, and American Soldiers died for our freedom. If you don't stand behind our Soldiers, please feel free to stand in front of them.

01-26-2006, 09:05 PM	#2
Ilander 20th Level Warrior Join Date: December 28, 2003 Location: Kentucky Age: 38 Posts: 2,820	Shaquille O'Neal: 7'1" 325 lbs BMI = 30.1 = obese George W Bush: 6'0" 190 lbs BMI = 25.8 = overwieght Me: 5'7" 190 lbs BMI = 30.5 = obese Right... So, I know for fact that I'm a bit pudgy...but if I lost as much weight as I could imagine losing...30 pounds, leaving me at 160, my muscle-mass pushes me into the "overweight" category. These things never, NEVER take muscle mass into account. And that's how the CDC has defined obesity for at least the last five years. But, at least I'm only as obese as Shaq. __________________ Is that what you really want to say?

01-26-2006, 09:30 PM	#5
Ilander 20th Level Warrior Join Date: December 28, 2003 Location: Kentucky Age: 38 Posts: 2,820	Yes, yes it is, Sir Degrader...though it is indeed ture that bigger people, even if they're muscular and trim, have a bit more cardiovascular strain...but calling them "obese" for it seems a bit of a misnomer. Basically speaking, people don't know their heads from holes in the ground when talking about weight and obesity. __________________ Is that what you really want to say?

01-26-2006, 09:45 PM	#6
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 60 Posts: 4,537	Well, I'm obese at my current weight, which isn't surprising really. I've packed on a couple extra pounds during my extended illness. However, I was still considered overweight at my prime: 5' 9" 185lbs. Make me laugh. Here's the trick to that. I worked physically hard for a living before I got sick, and that means that my cardio workout was way up there, as well as my strength "training". I was a carpenter, moving fast, and carrying what I had to carry to do the job. The point is, if you get to a fit weight that puts you into one of those categories, your whole body is fit, not just your physical appearance. __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Good Music: Here. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

01-26-2006, 10:14 PM	#7
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 40 Posts: 4,454	Hmm.. 5'9" and 170lbs. BMI: 25.1 (just barely overweight) But again, without taking into account bone structure, lean mass vs. fat, as well as the cholesterol factor. Just what exactly are they thinking? It's almost as bad as the people out there looking for the cure all, make me beautiful and slim pill. __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

01-26-2006, 09:11 PM	#3
Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 36 Posts: 4,835	Ohh boy, this oughta be good for me. Me: 6'3" 262 lbs. BMI = 32.7 You're right Ilander, these things never take muscle mass into account whenever it comes to weight. I've got a large bone frame, but according to this, I could be 200 lbs. and still be overweight.

01-26-2006, 09:15 PM	#4
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 63 Posts: 2,871	Anyone know they why do it? I mean, isn't it better to take into account bodyfat%?

01-26-2006, 10:17 PM	#8
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 63 Posts: 2,871	19.8, and that's overestimating my weight I think. Ah well. I'm still happy with my 10-13% bodyfat, even if I've stopped my daily 6-8k runs.

01-26-2006, 10:46 PM	#9
Mack_Attack Osiris - Egyptian God of the Underworld Join Date: May 22, 2001 Location: Sherwoodpark,Alberta,Canada Age: 51 Posts: 2,929	Over wight here. Kinda thought that since my ass is 5 feet wide. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] My job does not help. I sit in front of 8 computer screens. Wearing slippers. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________

01-26-2006, 10:52 PM	#10
TheCrimsomBlade Lord Ao Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: Winchester ,Virginia , United States Age: 71 Posts: 2,081	This system doesn't take in any factor like Muscle vs body fat because I'm 6'2" and weigh 267 yet just 5 Days ago I had my yearly complete physical and my body fat was only 4%! I have lifted weights most of my life and still only have a 28" waist and a 58" chest and yet the Calculator says my BMI is 34.3 and I'm Obese yet my doctor says other than my knees having both been replaced that I'm in better health physically than 80% of his patients not to mention alot stronger then all of them. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see any other calculation to be considered in the equation so this system is a bit flawed or did I miss something that needed to be added.? Never mind in reading further I find that this scale is only a single part of the test for health and I'm not considered to be Obese. Leave it to me to only read half the artical [ 01-26-2006, 11:05 PM: Message edited by: TheCrimsomBlade ] __________________ Remember these are just games so don't get too upset when you get your ass handed to you in a hat box

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