Henchmen & Last Chapter

Albromor · 02-03-2004, 04:06 PM

This is strictly for those who have finished the game because I don't want to spoil the game for anyone. So you have been warned!

Okay, I would like to hear your choice of preferred henchman for the final chapter - one I am about to enter - and why you made the choice you did. I would just like to hear your reasoning and if it worked out the way you hoped. Just no spoilers please. For your information I am currently a 16th level NG Cleric with 8th level spells, an AC of 40, and I have a +3 Morningstar. The boy can do some serious damage of his own. But as to henchman the following is what I am thinking:

First Choice: Grimgnaw. Grim is right! This guy is down right creepy and I have to admit that his scripting at one point actually got to me when he mentioned that one of the things he had to fulfill was the killing of an old man, a poor woman, and a baby. A baby! I wonder who comes up with these things...

Nevertheless, this guy is a one-man wrecking crew. He puts out so much damage in such a short time that sometimes I don't even get off a spell before the carcases are lying about. I chose to take him into Luskan and man was I ever glad. Only twice - twice - did he die and the second time was my fault for failing to get healing to him on time. In the really tough battles he draws the attention to himself and I get to cast spell after spell. I truly enjoy this aspect.

Now my other thoughts:

Daelon Red Tiger - love his character, but his damage dealt is not on the same level as Grimgnaw, and whereas I had to rarely portal back to get a newly raised Grimgnaw, it always seemed I was going back for Daelon. Yet, like Grimgnaw, he draws attention to himself, but not as long as he dies a whole lot quicker.

Linu La'nearal - In the earlier going I wasn't too impressed, but by the third chapter I took her into some caves and she really became a whole lot more powerful. Her spells packed a punch, she has decent AC, and she can both melee'as well as range. When we fought the drow it was so much fun as she and I duked it out with their spell casters. Yeah, I know, we're both clerics, but I am not thinking this is such a bad thing. I am strongly leaning towards her. She has become a surprisingly cool character.

Tomi Undergallows - love his sneak attack, trap detection and disarming, lock picking, and fearless fighting. He was really useful the first two chapters, but by chapter 3 I found him dying too often and his damage dealt was less than what I hoped. I'm split on this one, but I do like his character a lot.

Boddyknock Glinkle - I stayed away from him because I read that his spells weren't all that great. Then as I was about to finish the 3rd chapter by going to the Spine of the World, and on a whim I decided to take him. Man, talk about spells that wiped out packs of enemies, this guy was dealing the damage left and right. But like Tomi, he would be surrounded and die too soon. Plus I had to rest alot to get his spells back. He'd cast a ton of them in a single fight. Still, he was a big reason I got through the Fire Giant Lair, et. al.

Sharwyn - I know many like her, but I was mostly underwhelmed. Her lockpicking was nice, but her spells IMO weren't all that useful. Perhaps she didn't play out that well in my experience. She is actually last on my list. Anyone?

Thanks for reading this rambling. It will be fun to hear what you think.

[ 02-03-2004, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: Albromor ]

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 02-03-2004, 10:29 PM

I cast my vote for Linu. As you're not allowed to rest in the final area, having two spellcasters really isn't redundant like some might think. And I think her dialogue is amusing.

H@CkER · 02-19-2004, 11:52 AM

Do not take Tomi, i am using him at the end of chapter 2 and he is useless, all that happens is he dies and gets in the way. He does no damage in melee and when he uses a bow he hardly does any damage also, he is a great choice in the first chapter but soons becomes ineffective.

Albromor · 02-19-2004, 02:13 PM

Well I wound up taking Grimgnaw and even he couldn't last. My gut instinct was to take Linu. Wish I would have listened to myself, Illumina. And H@aCkER, what you say about Tomi is what I figured would eventually be the case.

Beef · 03-01-2004, 04:57 PM

Just recently finished the OC for the first time.

I took Linu for Ch 3-4, and I wish I had tried Grimgnaw instead (disturbing nature and all; I didn't choose Grimgnaw since I was already a melee Monk). My reasoning was that her dialogue is the most entertaining and I thought that I could continue our romance in Ch4. She was fun but really didn't do much of anything. Even the romance was lacking in the very short Ch4. I even had to make her use ranged since she kept dieing using melee.

To be fair, I really didn't need her help much since I was playing a power character (Monk2/Sorc6/RDD10). I had Buffs from my spells, potions, and scrolls/items I found along the way. Linu would die far too quickly in the final battle and, if my buffs were removed, she wouldn't be able to heal me in time anyhow. No problem there, I saved up for a stockpile of Heal potions before Ch4.

Anyhow, I don't think that it matters so much who you take with you as long as you are smart in your approach to the final battle.

Albromor · 03-01-2004, 06:47 PM

Hmmm, it seems then that Chapter 4 spells D-E-A-T-H for *all* henchman. Well at least Linu used ranged weapons, Grimgnaw just went in, did some damage, and then died.

[ 03-01-2004, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: Albromor ]

Beef · 03-04-2004, 03:24 AM

I found that I could extend her life by always tryijng to position myself between her and the mobs. Occasionally, one would get through to her and would make me leave the mob to go rescue her. Of course, movement in combat opened me up to loads of Attacks of Opportunity. I made most of the saving throws but damn!

Anyhow, I figured it was too much work for too little reward.

H@CkER · 03-04-2004, 05:47 AM

I used Linu to for chapter 3,4. She was good in chapter 3 but at the end battle i tried keeping her alive for at least a couple of seconds but she just kept dying. I finally gave up and kicked big boss ass by myself witout henchmen.

Henchmen Suck!!! Just a waste of space. (SOU they become useful)

Attalus · 03-06-2004, 03:00 PM

I used Sharwyn all the way through. *shrugs* I like her.

02-03-2004, 10:29 PM	#2
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 38 Posts: 4,673	I cast my vote for Linu. As you're not allowed to rest in the final area, having two spellcasters really isn't redundant like some might think. And I think her dialogue is amusing. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

03-01-2004, 04:57 PM	#5
Beef Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 27, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 48	Just recently finished the OC for the first time. I took Linu for Ch 3-4, and I wish I had tried Grimgnaw instead (disturbing nature and all; I didn't choose Grimgnaw since I was already a melee Monk). My reasoning was that her dialogue is the most entertaining and I thought that I could continue our romance in Ch4. She was fun but really didn't do much of anything. Even the romance was lacking in the very short Ch4. I even had to make her use ranged since she kept dieing using melee. To be fair, I really didn't need her help much since I was playing a power character (Monk2/Sorc6/RDD10). I had Buffs from my spells, potions, and scrolls/items I found along the way. Linu would die far too quickly in the final battle and, if my buffs were removed, she wouldn't be able to heal me in time anyhow. No problem there, I saved up for a stockpile of Heal potions before Ch4. Anyhow, I don't think that it matters so much who you take with you as long as you are smart in your approach to the final battle. __________________ Beef<br /><br />=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<br />We are all born with both gifts & shortcomings.<br />The smart people are the ones that learn to use their gifts.<br />The happy people are the ones that learn to accept their shortcomings.

03-04-2004, 03:24 AM	#7
Beef Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 27, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 48	I found that I could extend her life by always tryijng to position myself between her and the mobs. Occasionally, one would get through to her and would make me leave the mob to go rescue her. Of course, movement in combat opened me up to loads of Attacks of Opportunity. I made most of the saving throws but damn! Anyhow, I figured it was too much work for too little reward. __________________ Beef<br /><br />=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<br />We are all born with both gifts & shortcomings.<br />The smart people are the ones that learn to use their gifts.<br />The happy people are the ones that learn to accept their shortcomings.

03-06-2004, 03:00 PM	#9
Attalus Symbol of Bane Join Date: November 26, 2001 Location: Texas Age: 75 Posts: 8,167	I used Sharwyn all the way through. shrugs I like her. __________________ Even Heroes sometimes fail...

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02-03-2004, 04:06 PM	#1
Albromor Mephistopheles Join Date: June 13, 2001 Location: Northfield, NJ USA Posts: 1,417	This is strictly for those who have finished the game because I don't want to spoil the game for anyone. So you have been warned! Okay, I would like to hear your choice of preferred henchman for the final chapter - one I am about to enter - and why you made the choice you did. I would just like to hear your reasoning and if it worked out the way you hoped. Just no spoilers please. For your information I am currently a 16th level NG Cleric with 8th level spells, an AC of 40, and I have a +3 Morningstar. The boy can do some serious damage of his own. But as to henchman the following is what I am thinking: First Choice: Grimgnaw. Grim is right! This guy is down right creepy and I have to admit that his scripting at one point actually got to me when he mentioned that one of the things he had to fulfill was the killing of an old man, a poor woman, and a baby. A baby! I wonder who comes up with these things... Nevertheless, this guy is a one-man wrecking crew. He puts out so much damage in such a short time that sometimes I don't even get off a spell before the carcases are lying about. I chose to take him into Luskan and man was I ever glad. Only twice - twice - did he die and the second time was my fault for failing to get healing to him on time. In the really tough battles he draws the attention to himself and I get to cast spell after spell. I truly enjoy this aspect. Now my other thoughts: Daelon Red Tiger - love his character, but his damage dealt is not on the same level as Grimgnaw, and whereas I had to rarely portal back to get a newly raised Grimgnaw, it always seemed I was going back for Daelon. Yet, like Grimgnaw, he draws attention to himself, but not as long as he dies a whole lot quicker. Linu La'nearal - In the earlier going I wasn't too impressed, but by the third chapter I took her into some caves and she really became a whole lot more powerful. Her spells packed a punch, she has decent AC, and she can both melee'as well as range. When we fought the drow it was so much fun as she and I duked it out with their spell casters. Yeah, I know, we're both clerics, but I am not thinking this is such a bad thing. I am strongly leaning towards her. She has become a surprisingly cool character. Tomi Undergallows - love his sneak attack, trap detection and disarming, lock picking, and fearless fighting. He was really useful the first two chapters, but by chapter 3 I found him dying too often and his damage dealt was less than what I hoped. I'm split on this one, but I do like his character a lot. Boddyknock Glinkle - I stayed away from him because I read that his spells weren't all that great. Then as I was about to finish the 3rd chapter by going to the Spine of the World, and on a whim I decided to take him. Man, talk about spells that wiped out packs of enemies, this guy was dealing the damage left and right. But like Tomi, he would be surrounded and die too soon. Plus I had to rest alot to get his spells back. He'd cast a ton of them in a single fight. Still, he was a big reason I got through the Fire Giant Lair, et. al. Sharwyn - I know many like her, but I was mostly underwhelmed. Her lockpicking was nice, but her spells IMO weren't all that useful. Perhaps she didn't play out that well in my experience. She is actually last on my list. Anyone? Thanks for reading this rambling. It will be fun to hear what you think. [ 02-03-2004, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: Albromor ]

02-19-2004, 11:52 AM	#3
H@CkER Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 28, 2003 Location: Aberdeen Age: 34 Posts: 28	Do not take Tomi, i am using him at the end of chapter 2 and he is useless, all that happens is he dies and gets in the way. He does no damage in melee and when he uses a bow he hardly does any damage also, he is a great choice in the first chapter but soons becomes ineffective.

02-19-2004, 02:13 PM	#4
Albromor Mephistopheles Join Date: June 13, 2001 Location: Northfield, NJ USA Posts: 1,417	Well I wound up taking Grimgnaw and even he couldn't last. My gut instinct was to take Linu. Wish I would have listened to myself, Illumina. And H@aCkER, what you say about Tomi is what I figured would eventually be the case.

03-01-2004, 06:47 PM	#6
Albromor Mephistopheles Join Date: June 13, 2001 Location: Northfield, NJ USA Posts: 1,417	Hmmm, it seems then that Chapter 4 spells D-E-A-T-H for all henchman. Well at least Linu used ranged weapons, Grimgnaw just went in, did some damage, and then died. [ 03-01-2004, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: Albromor ]

03-04-2004, 05:47 AM	#8
H@CkER Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 28, 2003 Location: Aberdeen Age: 34 Posts: 28	I used Linu to for chapter 3,4. She was good in chapter 3 but at the end battle i tried keeping her alive for at least a couple of seconds but she just kept dying. I finally gave up and kicked big boss ass by myself witout henchmen. Henchmen Suck!!! Just a waste of space. (SOU they become useful)

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