Ever have a Hard Drive issue because of the IDE Ribbon?

Ziroc · 07-04-2006, 08:37 AM

Went to clean the PC inside, and I have those ribbons (IDE) and twist and bend them, (Gonna get rope ones soon) but afterwards, I was getting hard locks after a bit.. and slight clicking (It's C: drive too)

Anyway, I replaced the IDE Ribbon, and so far, 2 hrs later, no problems....
The old ribbon DID look pretty bad.. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Ever happen to you?

Either way, I STILL backed up every file just in case. (It's the 160gig drive I bought last March, so it SHOULD be ok. (Seagate--never ever had one die)

Mozenwrathe · 07-04-2006, 09:23 AM

not with the ribbons, but I have had hard drive issues even recently. have an older computer here that WAS working up until the hard drive upped and died on me. have had a few others also choke on me, though even my ancient IDE cables have been kept in close to pristine condition. (I don't go into the case often enough to wear them down.) as for Seagate, my friend swore off of them for a few years and rolled with Maxtor. I still think he doesn't use them, and will use Maxtor or Western Digital, sometimes Fujitsu.

ZFR · 07-04-2006, 12:41 PM

does it matter which end of the IDE ribbon is connected where?

I had once a poblem with detecting my new slave hard drive (the pins were set correctly for master and slave). Then when I connected the ribbon the other way round (the end which was connected to master I put to slave and vice versa) it worked okay.

Seraph · 07-04-2006, 02:14 PM

For a drives it can matter which plugs go in which device. Assuming your cables meet the standard, then the plugs should be different colors. They do that so it is easy to figure out how to hook them up.

[ 07-04-2006, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Seraph ]

ZFR · 07-04-2006, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seraph:
Assuming your cables meet the standard, then the plugs should be different colors. They do that so it is easy to figure out how to hook them up.

no... I mean which to connect to master and which to slave. I never thought there was a difference before that incident.

VulcanRider · 07-04-2006, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziroc:
Went to clean the PC inside, and I have those ribbons (IDE) and twist and bend them, (Gonna get rope ones soon) but afterwards, I was getting hard locks after a bit.. and slight clicking (It's C: drive too)

Anyway, I replaced the IDE Ribbon, and so far, 2 hrs later, no problems....
The old ribbon DID look pretty bad.. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Ever happen to you?

Either way, I STILL backed up every file just in case. (It's the 160gig drive I bought last March, so it SHOULD be ok. (Seagate--never ever had one die)

I work for a company that builds computers. I've seen several new machines fail initial burn-in because of that IDE ribbon cable. Also saw problems imaging new drives that disappeared just by replacing the cable. FWIW, I haven't seen any fail using the rope style yet.

wellard · 07-04-2006, 11:50 PM

Yep, Z !

Just a few days ago, while putting a couple of new DVD drives in my PC I messed around with the ribbons trying to get things to fit nice in the case only to find the PC would not reboot.... (mentioned in clouds cafe) The problem was with the ribbon which was the only original item left in my PC from about 5 years ago! The heat makes them brittle I guess.

Moral of my story is when you get a new component/ motherboard etc use the new ribbons provided [img]smile.gif[/img]

Lucern · 07-07-2006, 02:48 AM

I'm (still) building my machine from components I got last week. It works now, but it looks more like an alien autopsy than a computer, thanks to the annoyance of IDE cables and my motherboard (pretty much top of the line...) has only one IDE host adapter. Long story short - I've got a stack of 17 DVDs holding my hard drive up to the level of the CD-ROM drive just so that I could install Windows and get the drivers for an ATA card.

Wellard - about that IDE cable, could it have been a 40 pin, struggling to function in newer devices that would have preferred 80 pin? I only discovered the difference this week.

While we're on the subject, I found a cool article about the technical details of ATA/IDE.

http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/...ct_ide_hd.html

Bungleau · 07-07-2006, 12:01 PM

Very nice article, Lucern. That may explain some of my current fun... [img]smile.gif[/img]

wellard · 07-08-2006, 05:57 AM

That is a great link / article Lucern

I reccomend everyone who tinkers with their PC should read it [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

07-04-2006, 08:37 AM	#1
Ziroc Ironworks Webmaster *Bow to the Meow* Join Date: January 4, 2001 Location: Lakeland, Florida Age: 51 Posts: 11,720	Went to clean the PC inside, and I have those ribbons (IDE) and twist and bend them, (Gonna get rope ones soon) but afterwards, I was getting hard locks after a bit.. and slight clicking (It's C: drive too) Anyway, I replaced the IDE Ribbon, and so far, 2 hrs later, no problems.... The old ribbon DID look pretty bad.. [img]smile.gif[/img] Ever happen to you? Either way, I STILL backed up every file just in case. (It's the 160gig drive I bought last March, so it SHOULD be ok. (Seagate--never ever had one die) __________________ Ziroc™ Ironworks Gaming Webmaster www.ironworksgaming.com The Great Escape Studios - 2D/3D Modeling www.tgeweb.com & Ziroc's Facebook Page Visit My Flickr Photo Album

07-04-2006, 09:23 AM	#2
Mozenwrathe Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 31, 2005 Location: Mississauga (Toronto), Ontario, CANADA Age: 48 Posts: 1,214	not with the ribbons, but I have had hard drive issues even recently. have an older computer here that WAS working up until the hard drive upped and died on me. have had a few others also choke on me, though even my ancient IDE cables have been kept in close to pristine condition. (I don't go into the case often enough to wear them down.) as for Seagate, my friend swore off of them for a few years and rolled with Maxtor. I still think he doesn't use them, and will use Maxtor or Western Digital, sometimes Fujitsu. __________________ There are no paths to power which are not fraught with confrontation. No matter the battle, a lesson must be won. In the end, the path shall fade into nothingness for the one walking it, but may go on for eternity for those whom choose to follow. One must know their own footsteps before taking that first step, or instead of choosing your battles, your battles will choose you.

07-04-2006, 12:41 PM	#3
ZFR Legion Symbol Join Date: February 14, 2002 Location: Ireland Age: 39 Posts: 7,367	does it matter which end of the IDE ribbon is connected where? I had once a poblem with detecting my new slave hard drive (the pins were set correctly for master and slave). Then when I connected the ribbon the other way round (the end which was connected to master I put to slave and vice versa) it worked okay. __________________ ZFR

07-04-2006, 11:50 PM	#7
wellard Dracolisk Join Date: November 1, 2002 Location: Australia ..... G\'day! Posts: 6,123	Yep, Z ! Just a few days ago, while putting a couple of new DVD drives in my PC I messed around with the ribbons trying to get things to fit nice in the case only to find the PC would not reboot.... (mentioned in clouds cafe) The problem was with the ribbon which was the only original item left in my PC from about 5 years ago! The heat makes them brittle I guess. Moral of my story is when you get a new component/ motherboard etc use the new ribbons provided [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ fossils - natures way of laughing at creationists for over 3 billion years

07-07-2006, 12:01 PM	#9
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Very nice article, Lucern. That may explain some of my current fun... [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

07-04-2006, 02:14 PM	#4
Seraph Quintesson Join Date: September 12, 2001 Location: Ewing, NJ Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	For a drives it can matter which plugs go in which device. Assuming your cables meet the standard, then the plugs should be different colors. They do that so it is easy to figure out how to hook them up. [ 07-04-2006, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Seraph ]

07-07-2006, 02:48 AM	#8
Lucern Quintesson Join Date: August 28, 2004 Location: the middle of Michigan Age: 42 Posts: 1,011	I'm (still) building my machine from components I got last week. It works now, but it looks more like an alien autopsy than a computer, thanks to the annoyance of IDE cables and my motherboard (pretty much top of the line...) has only one IDE host adapter. Long story short - I've got a stack of 17 DVDs holding my hard drive up to the level of the CD-ROM drive just so that I could install Windows and get the drivers for an ATA card. Wellard - about that IDE cable, could it have been a 40 pin, struggling to function in newer devices that would have preferred 80 pin? I only discovered the difference this week. While we're on the subject, I found a cool article about the technical details of ATA/IDE. http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/...ct_ide_hd.html

07-08-2006, 05:57 AM	#10
wellard Dracolisk Join Date: November 1, 2002 Location: Australia ..... G\'day! Posts: 6,123	That is a great link / article Lucern I reccomend everyone who tinkers with their PC should read it [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] __________________ fossils - natures way of laughing at creationists for over 3 billion years

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