Gaza raid leaves hundreds homeless

pritchke · 10-14-2003, 05:29 PM

Up to 1,500 Palestinians have been left homeless by the Israeli army's two-day raid into the Rafah refugee camp, the United Nations estimates.
A senior UN official who went to assess damage said it looked like there had been a severe earthquake at the densely-populated camp in the south of the Gaza Strip, with up to 120 homes demolished.

But an Israeli army spokesman put the damage at "several" buildings destroyed, with the military targeting only structures used by militants.

Hospital officials said eight Palestinians - including two boys aged eight and 15 - were killed in the operation, which the Israeli army launched to destroy tunnels used to smuggle weapons across the Egyptian border.

More than 50 were injured in the raid, codenamed Operation Root Canal, which was launched overnight on Thursday by dozens of Israeli troops backed by tanks and helicopter gunships.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3185704.stm
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120 homes destroyed, 3 tunnels found, no weapons found. Talk about laying a beatdown on the innocent to nab 3 homes. I would hope my country removes it ambassador, and applies sanctions until Israel rebuilds the home of every homeless family they caused. There is absolutely no need for tactics like this. In a few weeks I predict we will see a few more terrorist acts of people blowing themselves up.

[ 10-14-2003, 05:30 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

Skunk · 10-14-2003, 05:35 PM

You don't need to bulldoze the homes of 1500 people to find tunnels. For the last 20 years archeologists and the police have been using simple sonar based technology to locate soil disturbance in the hunt for buried structures, bodies etc. etc. The technology is cheap, freely available and quick to set up.

The real purpose of this activity was to create a buffer zone - and the IDF should simply have been honest about this. The truth would have caused much less fuss...

pritchke · 10-14-2003, 05:46 PM

I don't see how creating a buffer zone makes the action anymore justified to world eyes.

[ 10-14-2003, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

The Hierophant · 10-14-2003, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pritchke:
I don't see how creating a buffer zone makes the action anymore justified to world eyes.

I don't think that satisfying World opinion is particularly high on the Israeli Military's priority list at this time...

Black Baron · 10-15-2003, 04:29 AM

For the first time in my life i agree (!) with skunk.

Do not smuggle weapons, you shall have no problems. Let your neighboor smugle them, you also pay. it is quite simple, even if brutal.

Skunk · 10-15-2003, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Black Baron:
For the first time in my life i agree (!) with skunk.

Do not smuggle weapons, you shall have no problems. Let your neighboor smugle them, you also pay. it is quite simple, even if brutal.

We're not in total agreement I'm afraid.

I can understand the need for a buffer zone - but such actions require a damage limitation exercise too - even if only in the limited form of providing temporary sheltered accommodation for the populace.

Anything less will drive the newly homeless and disaffected straight into the arms of their local Hamas Quartermaster.

WillowIX · 10-15-2003, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Black Baron:
For the first time in my life i agree (!) with skunk.

Do not smuggle weapons, you shall have no problems. Let your neighboor smugle them, you also pay. it is quite simple, even if brutal.

Sure but what rights have your country to invade a neighboring sovereign state to look for tunnels? The problem with this latest action is that it is NOT those who smuggle that gets deep problems rather it is all the Palestinian people! Or perhaps they're all smugglers?

I bet the Israeli government would like to believe that.

Timber Loftis · 10-15-2003, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Black Baron:
Do not smuggle weapons, you shall have no problems. Let your neighboor smugle them, you also pay. it is quite simple, even if brutal.

I hate to point this out, but your sentences contradict each other. One of the first two sentences must be untrue.

Erezike · 10-16-2003, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WillowIX:

quote:
Originally posted by Black Baron:
For the first time in my life i agree (!) with skunk.

Do not smuggle weapons, you shall have no problems. Let your neighboor smugle them, you also pay. it is quite simple, even if brutal.

Sure but what rights have your country to invade a neighboring sovereign state to look for tunnels?[/QUOTE]The problem is that the Palestinian Authority prefers terrorists over civilians and lets them control the life of the Palestinians.

khazadman · 10-16-2003, 12:55 PM

Willow, the Israelis have every right to enter Gaza and destroy these tunnels because the weapons smuggled through them are being used to kill Israelis and terrorise the Palestinians. Though I imagine that the palestinians problems don't count for much in the decision.

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10-14-2003, 05:29 PM	#1
pritchke Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: September 5, 2001 Location: Calgary, AB Age: 49 Posts: 3,491	Up to 1,500 Palestinians have been left homeless by the Israeli army's two-day raid into the Rafah refugee camp, the United Nations estimates. A senior UN official who went to assess damage said it looked like there had been a severe earthquake at the densely-populated camp in the south of the Gaza Strip, with up to 120 homes demolished. But an Israeli army spokesman put the damage at "several" buildings destroyed, with the military targeting only structures used by militants. Hospital officials said eight Palestinians - including two boys aged eight and 15 - were killed in the operation, which the Israeli army launched to destroy tunnels used to smuggle weapons across the Egyptian border. More than 50 were injured in the raid, codenamed Operation Root Canal, which was launched overnight on Thursday by dozens of Israeli troops backed by tanks and helicopter gunships. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3185704.stm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 120 homes destroyed, 3 tunnels found, no weapons found. Talk about laying a beatdown on the innocent to nab 3 homes. I would hope my country removes it ambassador, and applies sanctions until Israel rebuilds the home of every homeless family they caused. There is absolutely no need for tactics like this. In a few weeks I predict we will see a few more terrorist acts of people blowing themselves up. [ 10-14-2003, 05:30 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

10-14-2003, 05:35 PM	#2
Skunk Banned User Join Date: September 3, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 62 Posts: 1,463	You don't need to bulldoze the homes of 1500 people to find tunnels. For the last 20 years archeologists and the police have been using simple sonar based technology to locate soil disturbance in the hunt for buried structures, bodies etc. etc. The technology is cheap, freely available and quick to set up. The real purpose of this activity was to create a buffer zone - and the IDF should simply have been honest about this. The truth would have caused much less fuss...

10-14-2003, 05:46 PM	#3
pritchke Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: September 5, 2001 Location: Calgary, AB Age: 49 Posts: 3,491	I don't see how creating a buffer zone makes the action anymore justified to world eyes. [ 10-14-2003, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

10-16-2003, 12:55 PM	#10
khazadman User suspended until [Feb13] Join Date: December 6, 2001 Location: the south side of ol virginny Age: 62 Posts: 1,172	Willow, the Israelis have every right to enter Gaza and destroy these tunnels because the weapons smuggled through them are being used to kill Israelis and terrorise the Palestinians. Though I imagine that the palestinians problems don't count for much in the decision.

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