How does Harm Spell work?

SillySorcerer · 10-02-2003, 11:51 AM

Ok, so this is one of those questions that I could probably answer myself if I were to take the time and experiment a little, but since I am wasting time at work and not actually able to play the game, I'll ask anyway...

How does the Cleric Harm spell work?

Last night I was battling a dragon and told my cleric to cast harm on it. After selecting the spell, though, I got the sword cursor instead of the spell cursor. I clicked on the dragon and the cleric walked up and did a melee attack without casting the spell. After the battle, I noticed that my cleric still had the spell in his memory (he had not cast it).

Pretty weird-- It seems intuitive that a target would have to be selected for this combat spell.

Armen · 10-02-2003, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by SillySorcerer:
Ok, so this is one of those questions that I could probably answer myself if I were to take the time and experiment a little, but since I am wasting time at work and not actually able to play the game, I'll ask anyway...

LOL - i know exactly what you mean [img]smile.gif[/img]

i understand that Harm creates a temporary item that 'has' the spell effect and you have to make a successful melee attack with that 'weapon' - other then that i'm not sure

andrewas · 10-02-2003, 12:13 PM

Cast harm on your own cleric, then make a successful melee attack on the target, and the target will be reduced to one HP and should be an easy kill.

Morgeruat · 10-02-2003, 12:54 PM

click on the spell and wait for the cleric to cast it, you cannot target the spell (same thing with shocking grasp, ghoul touch, cause light wounds, spiritual hammer, chill touch, black blade of disaster, etc) as it autotargets the clerics hands and changes the icon in your weapon bar after casting, you must then take this "new" weapon and strike your foe, if you hit and the spell makes it past magic resistance you've just reduced your target to 1-4hp's

JrKASperov · 10-02-2003, 01:41 PM

Which is hard, cause you'll have to hit a target with a priests Thac0...Better hope you are a multi or dual with fighterabilities...

SillySorcerer · 10-02-2003, 02:13 PM

Thanks everyone, that helps and I will give it a try. Because my cleric's thaco is nothing to write home about, I'll probably have him use Harm on a pudding or something.

I was battling Draconis last night-- That guy is pretty tough. My sorcerer finally got him with a time stop-feeblemind combo, but it took a few tries!

Xen · 10-02-2003, 02:17 PM

M/C`s are deadly with Time Stop + Harm. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 10-02-2003, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Leslie · 10-02-2003, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by SillySorcerer:
Thanks everyone, that helps and I will give it a try. Because my cleric's thaco is nothing to write home about, I'll probably have him use Harm on a pudding or something.

You can use Holy Power before that Harm - you get Fighter's THAC0.

Even better - you can use some STR enhancing spells to raise you THAC0 even higher - DUHM, Righteous Magic, ...

[ 10-02-2003, 02:40 PM: Message edited by: Leslie ]

Firestormalpha · 10-02-2003, 03:05 PM

Yup buff the priests THAC0, and strength.

Borg · 10-02-2003, 03:48 PM

Does MR affect Harm? I thought it only required a successful Melee attack. I used it successfully on a hot ToB boss one time and I thought he had a high MR for some reason.

10-02-2003, 11:51 AM	#1
SillySorcerer Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 19, 2003 Location: USA Age: 60 Posts: 38	Ok, so this is one of those questions that I could probably answer myself if I were to take the time and experiment a little, but since I am wasting time at work and not actually able to play the game, I'll ask anyway... How does the Cleric Harm spell work? Last night I was battling a dragon and told my cleric to cast harm on it. After selecting the spell, though, I got the sword cursor instead of the spell cursor. I clicked on the dragon and the cleric walked up and did a melee attack without casting the spell. After the battle, I noticed that my cleric still had the spell in his memory (he had not cast it). Pretty weird-- It seems intuitive that a target would have to be selected for this combat spell. __________________ Show me the Gauntlets of Ogre Strength and I\'ll call it an RPG.

10-02-2003, 12:13 PM	#3
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 42 Posts: 4,774	Cast harm on your own cleric, then make a successful melee attack on the target, and the target will be reduced to one HP and should be an easy kill. __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-02-2003, 01:41 PM	#5
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 38 Posts: 1,701	Which is hard, cause you'll have to hit a target with a priests Thac0...Better hope you are a multi or dual with fighterabilities... __________________ God is in the rain.

10-02-2003, 02:13 PM	#6
SillySorcerer Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 19, 2003 Location: USA Age: 60 Posts: 38	Thanks everyone, that helps and I will give it a try. Because my cleric's thaco is nothing to write home about, I'll probably have him use Harm on a pudding or something. I was battling Draconis last night-- That guy is pretty tough. My sorcerer finally got him with a time stop-feeblemind combo, but it took a few tries! __________________ Show me the Gauntlets of Ogre Strength and I\'ll call it an RPG.

10-02-2003, 03:05 PM	#9
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 40 Posts: 4,454	Yup buff the priests THAC0, and strength. __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

10-02-2003, 12:54 PM	#4
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 43 Posts: 5,421	click on the spell and wait for the cleric to cast it, you cannot target the spell (same thing with shocking grasp, ghoul touch, cause light wounds, spiritual hammer, chill touch, black blade of disaster, etc) as it autotargets the clerics hands and changes the icon in your weapon bar after casting, you must then take this "new" weapon and strike your foe, if you hit and the spell makes it past magic resistance you've just reduced your target to 1-4hp's

10-02-2003, 02:17 PM	#7
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 36 Posts: 8,554	M/C`s are deadly with Time Stop + Harm. [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 10-02-2003, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

10-02-2003, 03:48 PM	#10
Borg The Magister Join Date: March 25, 2003 Location: San Francisco Age: 52 Posts: 137	Does MR affect Harm? I thought it only required a successful Melee attack. I used it successfully on a hot ToB boss one time and I thought he had a high MR for some reason.

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