New error message, need some help I think... - Page 2

WillowIX · 04-22-2002, 08:48 AM

Lol, I guess the thread was a bit confusing... The error messages stopped appearing when I logged in as administrator. The spells are working and it was the rat pie that froze the game (dropped it and let Rethpian starve...) I still can´t disarm chests though! Sometimes it works but most often I get a system sound, the game freezes and I get bumped to windows, lockpicks are working though! I tried to bust back my diretx to 7.0a but that didn´t work (and I need dx8 for M&MIX and Max Payne)! As for cancelling processes, i shut down my antivirus, firewall, cdrw sofware and scheduler. But then there´s still 20+ processes on and I have no idea which to shutdown (got win2k)! I´ll try and apply the patch ,my rogue to be assassin won´t like it though (lol), but then again I think he feels he´s getting discriminated by not being able to disarm locks or chests... Any other tips will be extremely appreciated!! Can´t get enough of this game!

WillowIX · 04-22-2002, 09:37 AM

And the patch didn´t solve it either...

Wyvern · 04-22-2002, 01:20 PM

Yikes!!

Have you tried running the game in SOFTWARE mode?? Not really sure if that is related to this problem or not but it's the only thing I (a non techie) can think of at the moment.

Come on, techie gurus, show your stuff!!!!

Wyv

WillowIX · 04-22-2002, 01:33 PM

Close this thread, lol!!! The game is working again!!! Thanks all!!! Now I´ll just find all those chests and disarm them! Woohooo!!!!

Detah · 04-22-2002, 01:42 PM

Do you know which fix corrected your problem?

Detah

WillowIX · 04-22-2002, 02:01 PM

I sure do! I just ran this:
"C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\regsvr32.exe c:\windows\apppatch\slayerui.dll" which will give win95 compatability! It´s in the helpdesk page 7!

eNTi · 08-08-2003, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WillowIX:
Didn´t work! But I got the entire error message: "The instruction at 0042548d referenced memory at 04411000. The memory could not be read". Anyone know how to fix this?

i've got exactly the same problem with another instruction at another memory location, but i'm using windows xp sp1. yes, i've gone through all steps posted in this forum, but with no luck. i can actually watch the intro movie and i get a start screen if i don't have play-cd ready in the drive, but only to be prompted to insert the cd. i've tried all possible compatibility mode settings. please help me, i really want to try out this game, for i'm a big wizadry 7 fan.

Radek · 08-08-2003, 07:25 AM

I am fighting with crap2000, too

and I am getting similar crashes as well [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img]

My current hardware is the following:

Motherboard: K7N2 Delta L
CPU: Athlon XP 2200+
RAM 1 GB (That's why I cannot run w98. I am not about to pull a memory chip out of my computer whenever the windows crashes such a way that a reinstallation is necessary).
HD Caviar 40 GB
Video: GeForce Ti 4200 TD 8x
Sound: SB Live 512
CD, CDRW, Zip, etc.
Operating system: eCS and, well, crap2000 with sp2 [img]graemlins/confused5.gif[/img]

Here is my current experience:

1. Be an administrator. You cannot play as a user. Don't forget that a "user" under Neanderthal Technology is a being which cannot be trusted at all and which must not be allowed to install or run anything, not even a printer driver. All games are "near kernel" applications that try to compensate inefficiency of windows by using "low level" APIs. Such applications cannot be run at the user level successfuly.

2. Unpack the .avi files by means of Virtual Dub. Otherwise, you cannot play at all.

At this moment, I was able of ALMOST everything - except using items on another objects (using keys on locks or using the Bauble Stick on the crystal) but I was able to use potions on myself or cast spells on myself. I was also able to pick items from the ground, disarming chests, entering all houses in Valeia and so on. I was also able to insert crystals into receptacles.

3. Activate the compatibility layer and play using the w95 layer.

This seems to solve the problems with the keys and similar items. Well, the result is still unsatisfactory:
a) The game crashes significantly more often than it did under w98.
b) Once the game crashes, I get a permanent false white cursor in the middle of the action window. Quititng the game and restarting it does not help, the cursor is there again! Only restarting crap2000 helps!
c) The Save Game screen is extremely jerky.
Nevertheless, I am able to run the game somehow.

Note: I have removed DirectX and replaced it with DirectX comming with W&W.

Therefore, I see the following possible sources of Willow's problems:
1. sp2 at least is needed.
2. some application thread is guilty, the system threads should not be guilty.
3. incompatibility between DirectX and crap2000.

eNTi · 08-09-2003, 07:11 PM

ah please. some tech guru help us? ist this "memory-thingy-instruction" error, merly part of a greater conspiracy against "the user" so that i have to log in as admin??? i'm still using win xp.

Bungleau · 08-09-2003, 10:32 PM

Welcome to the boards, eNTi. May your journeys in the Gael Serran bring you glory, honor, and wealth.

As for the admin login, I suspect so. There are certain things which just have to be installed as administrator to work properly, and others that have to be run as administrator. If you're running into problems and can't find other ways around them (have you checked the Tech Tips thread?), try the patch or administrator.

But don't blame us, eh? Some of our more senior posters were the ones who found a way to get the game to run on Win2k and XP when the publishers said it couldn't be done (and may still say so, for all I know).

If there's another way around it, we can help ferret it out.

04-22-2002, 08:48 AM	#11
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	Lol, I guess the thread was a bit confusing... The error messages stopped appearing when I logged in as administrator. The spells are working and it was the rat pie that froze the game (dropped it and let Rethpian starve...) I still can´t disarm chests though! Sometimes it works but most often I get a system sound, the game freezes and I get bumped to windows, lockpicks are working though! I tried to bust back my diretx to 7.0a but that didn´t work (and I need dx8 for M&MIX and Max Payne)! As for cancelling processes, i shut down my antivirus, firewall, cdrw sofware and scheduler. But then there´s still 20+ processes on and I have no idea which to shutdown (got win2k)! I´ll try and apply the patch ,my rogue to be assassin won´t like it though (lol), but then again I think he feels he´s getting discriminated by not being able to disarm locks or chests... Any other tips will be extremely appreciated!! Can´t get enough of this game! __________________ Confuzzled by nature.

04-22-2002, 09:37 AM	#12
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	And the patch didn´t solve it either... __________________ Confuzzled by nature.

04-22-2002, 01:33 PM	#14
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	Close this thread, lol!!! The game is working again!!! Thanks all!!! Now I´ll just find all those chests and disarm them! Woohooo!!!! __________________ Confuzzled by nature.

04-22-2002, 02:01 PM	#16
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	I sure do! I just ran this: "C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\regsvr32.exe c:\windows\apppatch\slayerui.dll" which will give win95 compatability! It´s in the helpdesk page 7! __________________ Confuzzled by nature.

08-08-2003, 07:25 AM	#18
Radek Red Dragon Join Date: April 3, 2001 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 1,586	I am fighting with crap2000, too and I am getting similar crashes as well [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] My current hardware is the following: Motherboard: K7N2 Delta L CPU: Athlon XP 2200+ RAM 1 GB (That's why I cannot run w98. I am not about to pull a memory chip out of my computer whenever the windows crashes such a way that a reinstallation is necessary). HD Caviar 40 GB Video: GeForce Ti 4200 TD 8x Sound: SB Live 512 CD, CDRW, Zip, etc. Operating system: eCS and, well, crap2000 with sp2 [img]graemlins/confused5.gif[/img] Here is my current experience: 1. Be an administrator. You cannot play as a user. Don't forget that a "user" under Neanderthal Technology is a being which cannot be trusted at all and which must not be allowed to install or run anything, not even a printer driver. All games are "near kernel" applications that try to compensate inefficiency of windows by using "low level" APIs. Such applications cannot be run at the user level successfuly. 2. Unpack the .avi files by means of Virtual Dub. Otherwise, you cannot play at all. At this moment, I was able of ALMOST everything - except using items on another objects (using keys on locks or using the Bauble Stick on the crystal) but I was able to use potions on myself or cast spells on myself. I was also able to pick items from the ground, disarming chests, entering all houses in Valeia and so on. I was also able to insert crystals into receptacles. 3. Activate the compatibility layer and play using the w95 layer. This seems to solve the problems with the keys and similar items. Well, the result is still unsatisfactory: a) The game crashes significantly more often than it did under w98. b) Once the game crashes, I get a permanent false white cursor in the middle of the action window. Quititng the game and restarting it does not help, the cursor is there again! Only restarting crap2000 helps! c) The Save Game screen is extremely jerky. Nevertheless, I am able to run the game somehow. Note: I have removed DirectX and replaced it with DirectX comming with W&W. Therefore, I see the following possible sources of Willow's problems: 1. sp2 at least is needed. 2. some application thread is guilty, the system threads should not be guilty. 3. incompatibility between DirectX and crap2000. __________________ My name is Demon\'s Last Day. Yes, the last one.

04-22-2002, 01:20 PM	#13
Wyvern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Rural Paradise, MI Posts: 5,701	Yikes!! Have you tried running the game in SOFTWARE mode?? Not really sure if that is related to this problem or not but it's the only thing I (a non techie) can think of at the moment. Come on, techie gurus, show your stuff!!!! Wyv

04-22-2002, 01:42 PM	#15
Detah Dungeon Master Join Date: January 3, 2002 Location: Frankfort, KY Posts: 94	Do you know which fix corrected your problem? Detah

08-09-2003, 07:11 PM	#19
eNTi Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 6, 2003 Location: Multiversum Level IV Age: 43 Posts: 5	ah please. some tech guru help us? ist this "memory-thingy-instruction" error, merly part of a greater conspiracy against "the user" so that i have to log in as admin??? i'm still using win xp.

08-09-2003, 10:32 PM	#20
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Welcome to the boards, eNTi. May your journeys in the Gael Serran bring you glory, honor, and wealth. As for the admin login, I suspect so. There are certain things which just have to be installed as administrator to work properly, and others that have to be run as administrator. If you're running into problems and can't find other ways around them (have you checked the Tech Tips thread?), try the patch or administrator. But don't blame us, eh? Some of our more senior posters were the ones who found a way to get the game to run on Win2k and XP when the publishers said it couldn't be done (and may still say so, for all I know). If there's another way around it, we can help ferret it out. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
error message - developer message	badgrrl448	Miscellaneous Games (RPG or not)	15	10-02-2004 04:46 PM
Error message	Greyem	Wizards & Warriors Forum	1	06-29-2004 10:48 PM
Error message	Kammye	Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2 Also SoU & HotU Forum	5	07-28-2002 06:46 PM
error message - have you had this?	cheesus	Baldurs Gate II: Shadows of Amn & Throne of Bhaal	7	12-10-2001 08:55 AM
Error Message? How Do I Fix It?	Chaoz	Dungeon Craft - RPG Game Maker	1	07-22-2001 08:18 PM