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Fljotsdale · 10-07-2001, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Killing Spree:
In ancient Cherokee tradition there is a law know as "The Law Of Retaliation". It speaks that if somebody is harmed by someone else, that person has every right to injure him/her in a similar manner. If a person is killed, it is up to their relatives to kill the murderer. If not you were letting down a duty to your clan/tribe, which was considered the worst of all crimes.

Were the people in the world trade center not worthy of being avenged?

Are all Americans Cherokees? Or do you live according to the Bill of Rights?

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Cloudbringer · 10-07-2001, 10:54 PM

I look at this not so much as 'vengeance' as preventitive measures to avoid future attacks like WTC and the Pentagon. A message being sent to terrorists worldwide.

edit: I don't think he/she meant to say all Americans must live by that code, F... but perhaps is making a valid point that not all cultures see things the same way

Cloudy

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Killing Spree · 10-07-2001, 11:01 PM

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Are all Americans Cherokees? Or do you live according to the Bill of Rights?

Why descriminate in that way? "All men are created equal" are they not? I only used that example because I thought it was a good one.

Hey I don't want to fight, I'm just exercising my freedom of speech like everybody else. I'll be going away now.

Oh, and by the way that's SHE! RAGH! ~Runs away pulling hair out~

[This message has been edited by Killing Spree (edited 10-07-2001).]

Fljotsdale · 10-07-2001, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cloudbringer:
I look at this not so much as 'vengeance' as preventitive measures to avoid future attacks like WTC and the Pentagon. A message being sent to terrorists worldwide.

edit: I don't think he meant to say all Americans must live by that code, F... but perhaps is making a valid point that not all cultures see things the same way

Cloudy

Cloudy, it won't prevent future attacks. It will incite even more.
Of course, doing nothing would encourage more attacks as well.......

But WHY didn't the US just SHOW the Taliban the evidence? They said they would hand bin Laden over if there was evidence.
Maybe our leaders CAN'T produce sufficient evidence?

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Wulfere · 10-07-2001, 11:04 PM

I have said this in another thread but I think it needs saying here...
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This is still the very early hours of an operation you can't be sure
about anything you hear.

The difference is that we warned them repeatedly.
We do not knowingly target civilians. We are trying to keep the death toll to a MINIMUM.
The reports say that at least 50% of the civilian population had
left the cities before any of this even started.
We are after the Taliban and Bin Laden, not the people of Afghanistan.

The alternative is to do nothing. To sit here and let them bomb
buildings, blow up who ever they want, when ever they want. We
can't do that. We can't bend over to every jerk-off with a grudge or
a hatred of us. Not when they target our civilians on purpose.
Intending to kill as many as they can.

I don't like this anymore than you. Honestly I wish with all
my heart that this was a bad dream. But it isn't. I don't want to see
innocents die. But what are we to do? How are we to do it? What
can we do that we aren't already doing? We didn't ask for them to
start this. We didn't ask for this. We wanted to live in peace. We
trusted that they did too. But they don't. They had ample warning.
We as freedom loving people have to defend ourselves.

This is a military operation. Collateral damage has to be expected.
You can't blow up a building with a 2000 lb bomb and expect no
damage to other structures. We are using the most acurate
weapons in the world. We are trying to have minimal collateral damage.

I pray to god that this ends soon, that he look out for those in
harms way, that in the end we all find the peace we so want.
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With that re-said...

Maybe this won't stop them from attacking again.
Maybe it will.
We have talked our collective butts off in the past, hoping to negotiate
and save lives. Well we have seen that it doesn't work time and again.
We have to do something. What would you have us do? The is a time to fight and a time to talk. The time for talk has passed. The Taliban gambled we would do nothing but shoot off our mouths. They were wrong.
How much longer should we have waited?

As before I pray for all the innocents...I ask God to spare them. But this is the time to do what we are doing.

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The line between good and evil is razor sharp. Be careful of misteps,
lest you find yourself spitted upon your own blade.

Larry_OHF · 10-07-2001, 11:06 PM

PS...Killing spree is a girl

you are as bad as Waverider is...(sorry, that was a bad joke...hope it was funny...it will be to some...)

Ladyzekke · 10-07-2001, 11:08 PM

I kinda feel like you do Fljotsdale. I mean, I may feel certain rodents or bugs as pests, but I try not to kill them. To tell the truth, the only thing I hate is HATE. If something or someone is evil, I am viscious in supportng the pursuance of their deaths (sorry but that is the way I feel). But things like Animals and bugs, well, they don't have the intelligence to be deceitful, or intentionally evil, they just are trying to survive. Nothing wrong with that, if they didn't have that endurance, then they would go extinct, and our planet would suffer for that in many ways, depending on the "species," cause every species has its place, and it purpose. But evil, well, different story. Our planet, our world, will do just fine without evil. And evil isn't something that you can deal lightly with, if anything, Evil needs a bit of what Larry has to dish out LOL.! In my opinion, at least right now, tonight, I would have no problem seeing the Taliban drowned, flushed out, and beheaded. Fit for them. And a huge favor for the world, and goodness all round. Evil will always be evil, you cannot change these people, only take them out so they cannot harm anyone anymore...

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Fljotsdale · 10-07-2001, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Killing Spree:
Why descriminate in that way? "All men are created equal" are they not? I only used that example because I thought it was a good one.

Hey I don't want to fight, I'm just exercising my freedom of speech like everybody else. I'll be going away now.

Oh, and by the way that's SHE! RAGH! ~Runs away pulling hair out~

[This message has been edited by Killing Spree (edited 10-07-2001).]

Not fighting, Killing Spree! Just expressing my opinion, same as you!

Er.... does 'by the way that's SHE! RAGH!' mean you are a girl? Sorry! Thought you were male!

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Liliara · 10-07-2001, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
I'm with ya Liliara!!!! Action had to be taken at some point, might as well start now. oh btw I started a Pool of Radiance game last week and named a female sorcoress Liliara, liked the name hope its ok

I am happy to hear of all of the other Americans who feel that this is a necessary action!

Lord A, I am honored that you would choose my name for your adventures! (curtsies low and smiles)

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Killing Spree · 10-07-2001, 11:14 PM

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Sorry! Thought you were male!

Why does everybody instantly ASSUME I'm male?! Geez...

LOL, listen, I'm all for world peace but its going to be something the world needs to work on. Right now our varied opinions just show how hard a decision our president and other world leaders had to make. Let's show some support for our government and pray that THEY make the right choices, it is their job.

10-07-2001, 10:54 PM	#42
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	I look at this not so much as 'vengeance' as preventitive measures to avoid future attacks like WTC and the Pentagon. A message being sent to terrorists worldwide. edit: I don't think he/she meant to say all Americans must live by that code, F... but perhaps is making a valid point that not all cultures see things the same way Cloudy ------------------ Raindancer of the Laughing Hyenas Clan CloudDragon of the OHF Storm-Queen Raven's Cloud StormCloud of the Black Knight: Heart Mind Soul Forever "To sleep, perchance to dream..." [This message has been edited by Cloudbringer (edited 10-07-2001).]

10-07-2001, 11:04 PM	#45
Wulfere Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: March 20, 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska USA Age: 63 Posts: 893	I have said this in another thread but I think it needs saying here... --------------------------------------------------------------- This is still the very early hours of an operation you can't be sure about anything you hear. The difference is that we warned them repeatedly. We do not knowingly target civilians. We are trying to keep the death toll to a MINIMUM. The reports say that at least 50% of the civilian population had left the cities before any of this even started. We are after the Taliban and Bin Laden, not the people of Afghanistan. The alternative is to do nothing. To sit here and let them bomb buildings, blow up who ever they want, when ever they want. We can't do that. We can't bend over to every jerk-off with a grudge or a hatred of us. Not when they target our civilians on purpose. Intending to kill as many as they can. I don't like this anymore than you. Honestly I wish with all my heart that this was a bad dream. But it isn't. I don't want to see innocents die. But what are we to do? How are we to do it? What can we do that we aren't already doing? We didn't ask for them to start this. We didn't ask for this. We wanted to live in peace. We trusted that they did too. But they don't. They had ample warning. We as freedom loving people have to defend ourselves. This is a military operation. Collateral damage has to be expected. You can't blow up a building with a 2000 lb bomb and expect no damage to other structures. We are using the most acurate weapons in the world. We are trying to have minimal collateral damage. I pray to god that this ends soon, that he look out for those in harms way, that in the end we all find the peace we so want. ----------------------------------------------------------- With that re-said... Maybe this won't stop them from attacking again. Maybe it will. We have talked our collective butts off in the past, hoping to negotiate and save lives. Well we have seen that it doesn't work time and again. We have to do something. What would you have us do? The is a time to fight and a time to talk. The time for talk has passed. The Taliban gambled we would do nothing but shoot off our mouths. They were wrong. How much longer should we have waited? As before I pray for all the innocents...I ask God to spare them. But this is the time to do what we are doing. ------------------ The line between good and evil is razor sharp. Be careful of misteps, lest you find yourself spitted upon your own blade.

10-07-2001, 11:06 PM	#46
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	PS...Killing spree is a girl you are as bad as Waverider is...(sorry, that was a bad joke...hope it was funny...it will be to some...)

10-07-2001, 11:08 PM	#47
Ladyzekke Ironworks Atomic Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Virginia, U.S.A. Age: 57 Posts: 9,005	I kinda feel like you do Fljotsdale. I mean, I may feel certain rodents or bugs as pests, but I try not to kill them. To tell the truth, the only thing I hate is HATE. If something or someone is evil, I am viscious in supportng the pursuance of their deaths (sorry but that is the way I feel). But things like Animals and bugs, well, they don't have the intelligence to be deceitful, or intentionally evil, they just are trying to survive. Nothing wrong with that, if they didn't have that endurance, then they would go extinct, and our planet would suffer for that in many ways, depending on the "species," cause every species has its place, and it purpose. But evil, well, different story. Our planet, our world, will do just fine without evil. And evil isn't something that you can deal lightly with, if anything, Evil needs a bit of what Larry has to dish out LOL.! In my opinion, at least right now, tonight, I would have no problem seeing the Taliban drowned, flushed out, and beheaded. Fit for them. And a huge favor for the world, and goodness all round. Evil will always be evil, you cannot change these people, only take them out so they cannot harm anyone anymore... ------------------

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