Conflict of interests

Lord Stefan · 12-17-2003, 08:15 AM

Hi people, I've slowly got on with it since my newbie questions and still have a ton of stuff to do. I'm now heading for the top of the mages guild but am a bit further behind on the mages and thieves quests. I've actually come to a point where I need to decide where my loyalties lie and was hoping you might have a tip.

I need to pinch a code book from a fellow thief for the fighters guild. This will get me thrown out of the thieves guild I suspect. I think I'm going to side with the thieves from now on. They all seem to be nice enough. Is that a bad choice? I'm going to keep a save there so I can go back anyway to be honest. I supppose I could move to the commona tong but I've just begun hearing about the group that free the slaves and might get invovled with them in opposition to the commona.

Still a great game. I'm level 24 and quite happy bouncing around the land. I chose a Breton for the magic but wish I had someone a bit stronger now. Although, I am a dab hand with the long blade and blunt weapon. I have read comments saying it can be a bit too easy to win battles. I agree as I am not far through the game and I have spells that can kill anyone before they can touch me. I try to avoid them and have it as a back up plan in case someone starts whooping my ass.

Radek · 12-17-2003, 09:00 AM

If you already have the quest then, well, the things aren't good. Either you fail the quest or you get kicked out from the Thieves Guild. Sottilde will not give you the book no matter how much you bribe her if you are a member of the Thieves Guild.
If you have a saved game before getting the quest then there is a possibility to save your membersihip and advancement in both the Thieves Guild and the Fighters Guild. There is some "gentleman" Jim Stacey in Vivec, which have a quest for you: bribe heads of the Fighters Guild so that the guild will protect the Thieves Guild. One of the bosses to bribe is Fire-Eye from Balmora. Bribe Fire-Eye and she will skip the Code Book quest and behave as if the quest has been finished successfully. In the other words, when it comes to the Code Book quest, stop your advancement in the Fighters Guild until you have Fire-Eye bribed, and then continue advancement in the guild. The Code Book quest threatens no more.
I am not sure what happens if you already have the quest, whether the "gentleman" will help. Perhaps, bribed Fire-Eye will consider the quest finished successfuly even if you fail it (by not bringing the book), perhaps not. I don't know.

Kakero · 12-17-2003, 09:02 AM

If you already join the thief guild, you can go ahead and do the " retrive code book quest " for fighter guild without getting thrown out. If you haven't join thief guild yet but planning on doing so. don't do that quest yet.

you can't join commona tong in this game.

Lord Stefan · 12-17-2003, 09:08 AM

Cheers for that, I am already a member of the thieves guild so I will keep a save and try taunting Sottilde in to a fight or try the bribery route.

Firestormalpha · 12-17-2003, 09:53 AM

Lord Stefan, there's also the option of pickpocketing her. Not easy, lot's of saving and reloading but it is doable. Just find a way to pump the sneak skill up, and use invisibility potions or camouflage potions. That way you don't have to go beg forgiveness from the theives guild leaders for killing her.

Lord Stefan · 12-17-2003, 10:32 AM

I might try that one too. I wonder if I can "telekenisis" it from her pocket.

johnny · 12-17-2003, 11:30 AM

You don't have to ask anyone for forgiveness, not if you killed her after a succesful taunt. As long as she strikes first, you're on the good side of the law.

Oruboris · 12-17-2003, 12:20 PM

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JUST IGNORE THE MISSION: It won't be held against you, its about the last one you can do for the Balmora guild anyway. Move ahead by doing missions for the stewards of other cities.

And it turns out that there is a faction within the fighters working against the theives, in favor of the Cammona Tong, which you can't join anyway.

Meaning, if ya wanna be head theif someday, there are certain fighters you don't want to support...

Oru

Seraph · 12-17-2003, 03:07 PM

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JUST IGNORE THE MISSION: It won't be held against you, its about the last one you can do for the Balmora guild anyway.

The code book is the 4th mission from Eydis Fire-Eye. She gives a total of nine, so I can't figure out how you can say "its about the last one".

john · 12-17-2003, 08:58 PM

I also got other quests from the other mage guilds .And I never did get the code book from Sotitude.And continued to advance in the guild!?

12-17-2003, 09:00 AM	#2
Radek Red Dragon Join Date: April 3, 2001 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 1,586	If you already have the quest then, well, the things aren't good. Either you fail the quest or you get kicked out from the Thieves Guild. Sottilde will not give you the book no matter how much you bribe her if you are a member of the Thieves Guild. If you have a saved game before getting the quest then there is a possibility to save your membersihip and advancement in both the Thieves Guild and the Fighters Guild. There is some "gentleman" Jim Stacey in Vivec, which have a quest for you: bribe heads of the Fighters Guild so that the guild will protect the Thieves Guild. One of the bosses to bribe is Fire-Eye from Balmora. Bribe Fire-Eye and she will skip the Code Book quest and behave as if the quest has been finished successfully. In the other words, when it comes to the Code Book quest, stop your advancement in the Fighters Guild until you have Fire-Eye bribed, and then continue advancement in the guild. The Code Book quest threatens no more. I am not sure what happens if you already have the quest, whether the "gentleman" will help. Perhaps, bribed Fire-Eye will consider the quest finished successfuly even if you fail it (by not bringing the book), perhaps not. I don't know. __________________ My name is Demon\'s Last Day. Yes, the last one.

12-17-2003, 09:53 AM	#5
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 40 Posts: 4,454	Lord Stefan, there's also the option of pickpocketing her. Not easy, lot's of saving and reloading but it is doable. Just find a way to pump the sneak skill up, and use invisibility potions or camouflage potions. That way you don't have to go beg forgiveness from the theives guild leaders for killing her. __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

12-17-2003, 11:30 AM	#7
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	You don't have to ask anyone for forgiveness, not if you killed her after a succesful taunt. As long as she strikes first, you're on the good side of the law. __________________

12-17-2003, 08:58 PM	#10
john Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: October 6, 2001 Location: central coast of Ca. Age: 77 Posts: 653	I also got other quests from the other mage guilds .And I never did get the code book from Sotitude.And continued to advance in the guild!? __________________ John

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12-17-2003, 08:15 AM	#1
Lord Stefan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 10, 2003 Location: London Age: 49 Posts: 8	Hi people, I've slowly got on with it since my newbie questions and still have a ton of stuff to do. I'm now heading for the top of the mages guild but am a bit further behind on the mages and thieves quests. I've actually come to a point where I need to decide where my loyalties lie and was hoping you might have a tip. I need to pinch a code book from a fellow thief for the fighters guild. This will get me thrown out of the thieves guild I suspect. I think I'm going to side with the thieves from now on. They all seem to be nice enough. Is that a bad choice? I'm going to keep a save there so I can go back anyway to be honest. I supppose I could move to the commona tong but I've just begun hearing about the group that free the slaves and might get invovled with them in opposition to the commona. Still a great game. I'm level 24 and quite happy bouncing around the land. I chose a Breton for the magic but wish I had someone a bit stronger now. Although, I am a dab hand with the long blade and blunt weapon. I have read comments saying it can be a bit too easy to win battles. I agree as I am not far through the game and I have spells that can kill anyone before they can touch me. I try to avoid them and have it as a back up plan in case someone starts whooping my ass.

12-17-2003, 09:02 AM	#3
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	If you already join the thief guild, you can go ahead and do the " retrive code book quest " for fighter guild without getting thrown out. If you haven't join thief guild yet but planning on doing so. don't do that quest yet. you can't join commona tong in this game.

12-17-2003, 09:08 AM	#4
Lord Stefan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 10, 2003 Location: London Age: 49 Posts: 8	Cheers for that, I am already a member of the thieves guild so I will keep a save and try taunting Sottilde in to a fight or try the bribery route.

12-17-2003, 10:32 AM	#6
Lord Stefan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 10, 2003 Location: London Age: 49 Posts: 8	I might try that one too. I wonder if I can "telekenisis" it from her pocket.

12-17-2003, 12:20 PM	#8
Oruboris Avatar Join Date: April 5, 2002 Location: SW Montana Posts: 575	SPOILER: : : : : : : : : : : : JUST IGNORE THE MISSION: It won't be held against you, its about the last one you can do for the Balmora guild anyway. Move ahead by doing missions for the stewards of other cities. And it turns out that there is a faction within the fighters working against the theives, in favor of the Cammona Tong, which you can't join anyway. Meaning, if ya wanna be head theif someday, there are certain fighters you don't want to support... Oru

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