Weird question but hell

Lord Delarue · 04-04-2002, 11:04 AM

If you should have a fighter of lvl40 battle against a mage(or sorcerer) of lvl 40, who would win, and they both have equally powerful equipment, i'm trying to figure this one out, i mean, the fighter could be easy meat if you can do something like finger of death or hold person on him, but the mage can also be easy meet if the fighter has a high MR and good saving throws, so please help me on this one.

Sir Exxon · 04-04-2002, 11:09 AM

Hmm, say that...
Maybe the mage, cause at level 40, he has so good spells, that he can easily both protect himself from weapons, and smash the fighter with an offensive spell.

daan · 04-04-2002, 11:10 AM

Well, if no scrolls of protection against magic and such are permitted ...
In all fairness i suppose it'd be the mage ...

Once he gets of a time-stop spell, the fighter's gone. Lower MR if needed, and then some spells that dont have a svaing throw against damage, or atleast only half ... ( dragon's breath, abi dalzim's horrid wilting, skull trap etc.)
If he cast Improved alacrity in the time-stop, no fighter will come out alive.
but that's just my humble opinion [img]smile.gif[/img]

Lord Delarue · 04-04-2002, 11:13 AM

OK, i thought of it that way to, and say if the mage does not have time stop and the fighter can use all kinds of scrolls, who would win in this battle

Suzaku · 04-04-2002, 12:27 PM

Fighter use scrolls?? Well, I think the mage would win due to overpowering knowledge and offensive, defensive capabilities. Plus, lvl 40 mages can cast a couple o level drains to mess the fighter up pretty bad. Not that any fighter in the DnD world would reach lvl 40 in their lifetime anyway, whereas mages could become or...defy their mortal shell...

Sir Marcus Swordseeker · 04-04-2002, 03:25 PM

Basicly it would come down to range and speed factor if the fighter is close and wins init. Bad news for the wizard unless he is prepared ie stoneskin etc

Luvian · 04-05-2002, 09:49 AM

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Basicly it would come down to range and speed factor if the fighter is close and wins init. Bad news for the wizard unless he is prepared ie stoneskin etc

Any high level wizard should have a few contengency and spell sequencer ready.

kanri · 04-05-2002, 10:00 AM

Definitly the mage he cold use spells tha have no sving throws.

Haladar · 04-05-2002, 11:06 AM

Simple, Mage wins in a couple of seconds..

Mage casts imprisonment.

For some reason in BG2, imprisonment has no save, and cuts straight through magic resistance..

Lord Delarue · 04-05-2002, 11:32 AM

Ok, you got a point, but i think imprisonment is overpowered, i'm not sure about this, but i think you can just imprison Irenicus or Demogorgon or any hard enemie and still get their loot(though i'm not sure if you still get the loot), feel free to correct me

04-04-2002, 11:04 AM	#1
Lord Delarue The Magister Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: belgium Age: 37 Posts: 137	If you should have a fighter of lvl40 battle against a mage(or sorcerer) of lvl 40, who would win, and they both have equally powerful equipment, i'm trying to figure this one out, i mean, the fighter could be easy meat if you can do something like finger of death or hold person on him, but the mage can also be easy meet if the fighter has a high MR and good saving throws, so please help me on this one. __________________ If death would die, would everybody die or would everybody live?

04-04-2002, 11:10 AM	#3
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 38 Posts: 1,644	Well, if no scrolls of protection against magic and such are permitted ... In all fairness i suppose it'd be the mage ... Once he gets of a time-stop spell, the fighter's gone. Lower MR if needed, and then some spells that dont have a svaing throw against damage, or atleast only half ... ( dragon's breath, abi dalzim's horrid wilting, skull trap etc.) If he cast Improved alacrity in the time-stop, no fighter will come out alive. but that's just my humble opinion [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

04-04-2002, 11:13 AM	#4
Lord Delarue The Magister Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: belgium Age: 37 Posts: 137	OK, i thought of it that way to, and say if the mage does not have time stop and the fighter can use all kinds of scrolls, who would win in this battle __________________ If death would die, would everybody die or would everybody live?

04-04-2002, 12:27 PM	#5
Suzaku Drow Warrior Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Canada, AB Age: 38 Posts: 264	Fighter use scrolls?? Well, I think the mage would win due to overpowering knowledge and offensive, defensive capabilities. Plus, lvl 40 mages can cast a couple o level drains to mess the fighter up pretty bad. Not that any fighter in the DnD world would reach lvl 40 in their lifetime anyway, whereas mages could become or...defy their mortal shell... __________________ <br />Irresponsibility: No single raindrop will believe that it is to blame for the resulting flood. -Anonymous <br />IW PT Sig-Artist

04-05-2002, 10:00 AM	#8
kanri Dungeon Master Join Date: April 5, 2002 Location: mars Posts: 74	Definitly the mage he cold use spells tha have no sving throws. __________________ <br />Member of the IW Branch of the Anti-Anomen Society

04-04-2002, 11:09 AM	#2
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 35 Posts: 5,367	Hmm, say that... Maybe the mage, cause at level 40, he has so good spells, that he can easily both protect himself from weapons, and smash the fighter with an offensive spell.

04-04-2002, 03:25 PM	#6
Sir Marcus Swordseeker Dungeon Master Join Date: January 25, 2002 Location: Carson City Nv Posts: 82	Basicly it would come down to range and speed factor if the fighter is close and wins init. Bad news for the wizard unless he is prepared ie stoneskin etc

04-05-2002, 11:06 AM	#9
Haladar Dungeon Master Join Date: September 18, 2001 Location: England Posts: 98	Simple, Mage wins in a couple of seconds.. Mage casts imprisonment. For some reason in BG2, imprisonment has no save, and cuts straight through magic resistance.. __________________ -------------<br />Haladar<br />Mithril Cavalier of ALSB<br />Guardian of The Holy Temple of Aerie

04-05-2002, 11:32 AM	#10
Lord Delarue The Magister Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: belgium Age: 37 Posts: 137	Ok, you got a point, but i think imprisonment is overpowered, i'm not sure about this, but i think you can just imprison Irenicus or Demogorgon or any hard enemie and still get their loot(though i'm not sure if you still get the loot), feel free to correct me __________________ If death would die, would everybody die or would everybody live?

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