What Rights? Freedom? Conveniences?

[Lord of Alcohol]

Well to make it short...#1- #2-0 #3-some, convenience becomes harder to achieve when they are flying airplanes into buildings. I can understand and tolerate a little inconvenience. But if I get a ticket for pissing in my backyard...

[SSJ4Sephiroth]

heh, im not going to give an inch on my freedoms or anything! well, maybe a FEW convenciences, because im a bit spoiled, but if that pushes the legal driving age up to 21 and makes people enforce ratings on games/movies, im gonna be very pissed!

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Super Sephiroth, slayer of the Uber Fluffy, and battle co-ordionator and defender of the HADB clan.

Diplomacy is all and well, but HADB is better!

[Liliara]

Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol: Well to make it short...#1- #2-0 #3-some, convenience becomes harder to achieve when they are flying airplanes into buildings. I can understand and tolerate a little inconvenience. But if I get a ticket for pissing in my backyard...

LOL I don't think that anyone at this point is remotely interested in you whizzing in your back yard!


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And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels)

1. None. The war on drugs has infringed on enough of those and I continue to fight for those we have already lost.(Thomas Jefferson grew hemp)
2. None. (see above)
3. Give me convienience or give me death! A modern American anthem! I'll settle for longer waits when I air travel, but roadway checkpoints sound like a way to fill our prisons up with more non-violent drug (offenders?), costing us taxpayers more money, and costing people more pain. What's odd is I support the ones to check for dui's. Paradox stew anyone?

I think we can stop terrorist without giving up any #1 or #2, #3 we'll hafta compromise.

[Silver Cheetah]

Originally posted by G'kar: 3. Give me convienience or give me death I think we can stop terrorist without giving up any #1 or #2, #3 we'll hafta compromise.

Just out of interest, that phrase 'Give me convenience or give me death' that you quote there is actually the title of a Dead Kennedy's album - produced in the 80s, I believe. Some of the other songs are California Uber Alles and Holiday in Cambodia.



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[Luther]

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah: Hear hear! By the way, I'm not quite clear on why America continues to support Israel in their 34 year illegal occupation of the West Bank and Gaza? Surely it would be a lot less trouble to just butt out?

Yeah. When you think about it, Israel has the the most to gain from an American war in the Middle East. American firepower will greatly aid Israel in their recent bloody border disputes. The cynical, suspicious part of me thinks Israel may have even had a part in the attacks.

[Sir Taliesin]

I refuse to give up anything, when it comes to rights and freedoms! I'd rather give up my life.

I can't see how Isreal stands to gain anything. We are talking about an even more destablized Middleast. How does that help Isreal? Personally I think that what Isreal should do is pull their settlements out of the West bank and Gaza and let the palaestinians have it. But that doesn't solve the current crisis. Bin Laden doesn't like us because we had our troops in Saudia Arabia during the Gulf War. That's his beef. Doesn't matter to him that we were invited.

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Sir Taliesin



If they take my gun can I still use my Axe?

[Lord of Alcohol]

Originally posted by Sir Taliesin: I refuse to give up anything, when it comes to rights and freedoms! I'd rather give up my life. I can't see how Isreal stands to gain anything. We are talking about an even more destablized Middleast. How does that help Isreal? Personally I think that what Isreal should do is pull their settlements out of the West bank and Gaza and let the palaestinians have it. But that doesn't solve the current crisis. Bin Laden doesn't like us because we had our troops in Saudia Arabia during the Gulf War. That's his beef. Doesn't matter to him that we were invited.

Me too Sir Talieson. Inconvenience I can take.

[J.J.]

Originally posted by Sir Taliesin: I refuse to give up anything, when it comes to rights and freedoms! I'd rather give up my life. I can't see how Isreal stands to gain anything. We are talking about an even more destablized Middleast. How does that help Isreal? Personally I think that what Isreal should do is pull their settlements out of the West bank and Gaza and let the palaestinians have it. But that doesn't solve the current crisis. Bin Laden doesn't like us because we had our troops in Saudia Arabia during the Gulf War. That's his beef. Doesn't matter to him that we were invited.

HELLOOOOO out there in fairy land!!!!
Isreal could give ALL of it's land to the curtain-crowned criminals, IT DOES NOT MATTER the turbaned terrorists want to DESTROY Isreal, and would only be happy when they have managed to kill the last jewish person in the middle east. What Isreal should do is another war of 1967, when they proved to the world that they could take care of themselves by rolling up the terrorists and the Syrians. We should make sure that Isreal can increase it's size to include the present territories of Syria and iraq, control more oilfields, and be our base for the destabilization of all the jihad jerks' governments. Are you forgetting that Yasser Arafatass has publicly stated more than once that the goal of him and all right-minded criminals like him is the obliteration of the jewish state? Our goal should be nothing less for him and all his ilk.

tell me i misunderstood your post.
They belled the cat, ask not for whom the bell tolls now, it knells the death of those camel kissing criminals.

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Unstinting Gaurdian of Children
Defender of Those Unable To

To Err is Human To Forgive Divine, However Neither is U.S. Marine Corps Policy. Nuke'm til the damn camels glow.

[This message has been edited by J.J. (edited 09-16-2001).]

[J.J.]

There you go, Saz, is that better? I personally have not begun to vent, and think that we should indulge in some old-fashioned, good old American name calling and finger pointing, these criminals have forsaken the common courtesy due another human being. Why you insist on politeness for these degenerate jihad jerks is beyond me, but since I am unable to precisely express myself under your gag order, and it was no mistake the words i used, I must resort to milquetoast alliterations.

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Unstinting Gaurdian of Children
Defender of Those Unable To

To Err is Human To Forgive Divine, However Neither is U.S. Marine Corps Policy. Nuke'm til the damn camels glow.