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Old 03-15-2001, 06:34 PM   #11
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Grab Edwin, then d\l the Collecter's Edition special disc files off the internet and buy the Robe of Vecna. He has the highest INT(18) and has extra spell memorizations, even more than a normal specialist mage. Also, he is a Conjurer, so the only spells you cannot use are divination, but the Glasses of Identification can take care of identify, which is the only Divination spell I ever used. And I think he is cool with his szhizophrenic(SP?) dialogs.
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Old 03-16-2001, 12:30 AM   #12
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I too do not understand the reluctance about Yoshimo. A lot of the xp points you make in the game come from picking locks and disarming traps. Overall maybe more than anything else. To take full advantage of this you need a thief with good stats in lockpicking and traps. Yoshi is the only NPC thief that can be improved.
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Old 03-16-2001, 12:34 AM   #13
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A personal note: I found that Jan and Imoen are also competent thieves, they might not be as good as Yoshimo since Yoshimo is pure class theif, but you are better off diversifying their abilities to suit different situations. There are also other means to pick locks and find traps in the game, sure you might loss out on some experience, but this is immaterial consider the potential benefits from diversification.

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Old 03-16-2001, 12:37 AM   #14
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huh? you mean Jan is not as good as Yoshimo on thiefing? I used Jan, and he never failed removing any trap, opening any lock, and pick pocket anything (well, he failed on Bloodscalpe at the end, after 4 picks) anyway, what can Yoshimo do better than Jan?
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Old 03-16-2001, 12:47 AM   #15
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If that was directed to me then here is what I have to say; Yoshimo's only benefit over Jan and Imoen is that fact that he is single class, which means several things: (the following is generally speaking of pure class vs multi/dual)
1) pure class will level faster
2) pure class will reach higher thief level under exp cap (of course this becomes irrelevant once you take the exp cap away)
With that said, I must also add that you can only be so "specialized" in one particalar class, at one point the rate of the benefit provided by that class will begin to diminish since the thiefing points are also limited (at 200 in general I think, without item enhancement) when comparing to other characters who have several other skills under their belts. I mean, com'on, the locks are not so difficult to pick, and I've found that even Nalia can detect traps. If I have to pick, I will definitely pick Jan or Imoen over Yoshimo due to:
1) emphasis on magic in the game
2) you only need a decent theif, you don't need the best thief to pass the quests in the game
3) Jan is an party animal!!!!


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Old 03-16-2001, 12:53 AM   #16
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lol, hell yeah!
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Old 03-16-2001, 02:51 AM   #17
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The only thing to do when you meet yoshi in Irenicus dungeons is to let him join...than you send him in the next room with enemys and let him die that what I always do...hehe poor little guy...the first thing he is betrayed... but what else schould you do with a traitor

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the best mage i have is alacho acho
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