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Old 07-19-2001, 09:42 AM   #21
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melusine, with Hera, she was the one of the main causes on why the trojan war didnt cease and took its deadly toll... and since you said sex is a show of power earlier, it can also be said that changing sides that easily and swiftly another show of power? unlike humans, they cannot just switch get it? but for the gods, if i dont like you, you die...

Umm...I never said that Bahamut old chap...you must be confusing me with someone else...



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Old 07-19-2001, 09:47 AM   #22
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oh sorry, disregard the sex part, and your answer to my Hera is there

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Old 07-19-2001, 11:15 AM   #23
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hmm seen with todays eyes the greek mytology might be wicked. I agree with whoever said that the mytology represents what is accepted and what is not, I mean man to boy relationship was perfectly normal in ancient greek. Reading some of the greek mytology here.
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Old 07-19-2001, 11:22 AM   #24
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I read a great volume of the Greek myths and sagas(a scholarly version, ie not a children's book) when I was 10 and I never once thought something was wrong or perverted in them.

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Old 07-19-2001, 11:24 AM   #25
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hmm seen with todays eyes the greek mytology might be wicked. I agree with whoever said that the mytology represents what is accepted and what is not, I mean man to boy relationship was perfectly normal in ancient greek. Reading some of the greek mytology here.
Absolutely correct. In fact, I just assumed that's a given. It's all part of one's cultural perspective.

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Old 07-19-2001, 11:25 AM   #26
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Also Moridin, I think that both Gaia and Ouranos sprang forth from Chaos, making them the first gods. They begot many children and giant races, including Titans, Kronos and Rhea were both their children, i.e. Kronos, like his son, married his own sister.

I thought that Uranus (Ouranos) was mothered by Gaea (Gaia) alone. This would make him her son and then they had the Titans including Rhea and Cronus (Kronos) who then gave birth to the olympians, including Zues and Hera.

So we have a Mother and son having children
A brother and sister having children
And again a brother and sister...oh what a tangled web we weave

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Old 07-19-2001, 11:40 AM   #27
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Well that is probably true according to one version of the myth.....in the version I know ...In the beginning there was Chaos, a dark and undefined mass in which the seeds of all that is were laying hidden. Then from Chaos were formed Gaia, the Earth, and Ouranos, The Sky.
I thought that you said Rhea and Kronos begot the Titans, sorry if I corrected you without cause.

Edit: you did say that.... Oh well, you have corrected it in the last post you made...that's why I thought I might have misread....


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Old 07-19-2001, 11:46 AM   #28
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and we can all really say now...

ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY ARE THEY!!!!!!!!!

both figurative and literal!

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Old 07-19-2001, 06:06 PM   #29
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I suppose I have read too much psychlogy particularly Jung to not treat myth as metaphors and see rather the symbolism expressed in it. The study of ancient religions and their symbolism is a fascinating topic. I would suggest a book called the GOLDEN BOUGH.

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Old 07-20-2001, 09:49 AM   #30
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Ah...Frazer's Golden Bough...yes it is interesting, and so are Levi-Strauss and Jung....
But I always feel that something is slightly fishy about those theories.... whereas you can't help seeing myths in their symbolic qualities, I cannot help but questioning this symbolism.... But I do think it can often give us very interesting and fruitful new interpretations...

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