11-17-2004, 01:46 AM | #11 | |
Red Wizard of Thay
Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Honolulu, Hawai'i
Age: 40
Posts: 837
|
Quote:
|
|
11-17-2004, 03:59 AM | #12 | |
Jack Burton
Join Date: November 10, 2001
Location: Bathurst & Orange, in constant flux
Age: 37
Posts: 5,452
|
Quote:
|
|
11-17-2004, 05:31 AM | #13 | |
Jack Burton
Join Date: August 24, 2002
Location: Aussie now in the US of A!
Age: 37
Posts: 5,403
|
Quote:
|
|
11-17-2004, 05:59 AM | #14 |
Xanathar Thieves Guild
Join Date: January 18, 2002
Age: 38
Posts: 4,557
|
I harass people who own GameCube too (unless they have another console to go with it...like ps2/xbox). My GC experinces have been very drab (pikman, lugis mansion, PSO...ugh) with the only exception being Super Smash bros Melee. There's a reason it's only like $89 new... [img]tongue.gif[/img] *pets her xbox with it's xbox only games coughhalo2cough*
__________________
Yep I'm still lurking! |
11-17-2004, 06:54 AM | #15 |
Jack Burton
Join Date: November 10, 2001
Location: Bathurst & Orange, in constant flux
Age: 37
Posts: 5,452
|
Warning: Rant..
Ok, sure, it makes sense for Microsoft to try to stop piracy. After all, they exist as a proprietry company and their profit comes from over charging for things (like all other proprietry software distributers). Thus, piracy circumvents their over-pricing and they potentially loose money. So, yes, they need to stop piracy. But, I still have a problem with this. Because this doesn't just stop someone from playing on XBox live with pirated games. It makes it impossible to improve the XBox in any way. Want more RAM? Want better rendering algorithms? Want to play a Playstation game on it? Sorry, Microsoft don't want that. And why? What is an XBox? Essentially, it is a packaged computer that is specifically optimized for gaming. Get that? It is a computer. The out-of-the-box hardware and software is chosen by Microsoft... and rightfully so (who else would you want to control what goes into a Microsoft packaged system?). But if you want to upgrade your hardware (which is supposedly both possible and easy) to something that suits your needs better, you won't be able to go online with it. To me, this is Microsoft wanting complete control over you. They decide how you use your computer, and what for. The out-of-the-box optimizations should be just that: optimizations. They may be at the expense of other things (because that's the way these things always go), but they should never enforce usage. Buy it from the shop, you can guarantee that it is as it was made by Microsoft, but why should that stay the same? Just imagine if mainstream PC dealers did this. You would have to buy a completely new computer when all you wanted to do was to add 64MB of RAM, else your modem would refuse to work. People already make noise about some companies (for example, Dell) "tatooing" their harddrive such that you can't remove the default Operating System from it (so, if you're given Windows 98 and want a full install(non-upgrade) of XP, you can't do it), and that is less prohibitive than the situation in question. So people would complain about this even more. There is very little difference here, except that a console is set up to be optimal for gaming, while a mainstream computer has to be completely average: no expensive optimizations. And why should that affect our freedoms? |
11-17-2004, 10:39 AM | #16 |
40th Level Warrior
Join Date: October 29, 2001
Location: Western Wilds of Michigan
Posts: 11,752
|
Hmmm... I'm going to go on the MS side here -- waitaminnit!
*steps into flame suit* From what I see from this article, MS is not preventing you from modding your XBox. What it is saying is that people with modded XBoxes are not welcome in their house, XBox live. Anything they want to do on their own, in their own world, is fine... just not in MS's house. I have no problem with that. Now, that opens the door to the definition of a mod. What's acceptible, and what's not? Should more memory be a problem? Or not? That's where I think MS should open a dialogue with the gaming community to set some ground rules for what's acceptible. Rather than fighting against the modding community, they should work with it. Either that, or it's time for XBox UnLive, the alternative network, to show up...
__________________
*B* Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last. |
11-17-2004, 11:23 AM | #17 |
Fzoul Chembryl
Join Date: August 30, 2001
Location: somewhere
Age: 54
Posts: 1,785
|
Nobody want's to play in a game world of souped up PK'ers or compete against modded opponents. Too many experiences like this and you lose a lot of business. They have a right to protect their playing field from mods as much as the sports arena has a right to protect their fields from performance enhancing substances.
__________________
Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss. |
11-17-2004, 12:46 PM | #18 | |
Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom
Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: NC
Age: 38
Posts: 2,890
|
Quote:
|
|
11-17-2004, 02:25 PM | #19 | |
Iron Throne Cult
Join Date: June 3, 2001
Location: There is no IRL, Only AFK.
Age: 35
Posts: 4,896
|
Quote:
GET A REAL CONSOLE!!
__________________
My pokemon bring all the boys to the yard, and they're like; you wanna trade cards? Damn right, I wanna trade cards, I'll trade this but not my Charizard. |
|
11-17-2004, 02:38 PM | #20 |
40th Level Warrior
Join Date: July 11, 2002
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 11,916
|
I totally support Microsoft in this effort. If you want to mod a computer, buy a computer. The Xbox is made and marketed and sold as a console system. Microsoft isn't individually prosecuting anybody, they are merely protecting their site from a flood of annoying eff-ing munchkins with invulnerable characters coming onto Xbox live and spoiling it for all. If you want to mod your Xbox to play playstation games, go ahead, but don't expect to be welcomed onto the M$ site, because you broke M$ rules.
For their price, all consoles are an incredible steal. It's not like you're being told you can't upgrade your car or something. Funny, I don't even play Xbox Live and I see the wisdom in this. |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
CD and HD setup question, site for no-cd cracks | philip | General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) | 6 | 07-14-2004 06:07 AM |
Need Help on DEFINATELY LEGAL CD-Cracks | Lavindathar | General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) | 10 | 11-19-2003 01:41 PM |
Legal Cracks For Games [HELP] | Lavindathar | General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) | 3 | 11-18-2003 12:47 PM |
Fox News cracks me up | Rokenn | General Discussion | 18 | 08-24-2003 04:52 AM |
EU Makes Stunning Announcement and cracks down | MagiK | General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) | 11 | 01-22-2003 06:14 PM |