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Old 07-21-2003, 02:15 PM   #11
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What do I think of Kobe? Hmm, well I think he's an overpaid athlete just like most pro athletes. Alot more people, especially children, are starving or undereducated. They wear ragged clothes and are malnourished. I really don't like watching sports just to pay the atheletes when I can instead be spending my money for those in real need of money. I am not a athlete worshipper. I admire those who are in the service professions, helping those who need help. Athletes?! Bah! As far as Kobe's problems, I don't know if he did rape her, but I really feel sorry for his wife. What the hell was he thinking? Adultery. Cheating on his wife. No I don't feel sorry for him. Maybe this will deflate his pompous ego down to earth.
 
Old 07-21-2003, 02:30 PM   #12
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What do I think of Kobe? Hmm, well I think he's an overpaid athlete just like most pro athletes. Alot more people, especially children, are starving or undereducated. They wear ragged clothes and are malnourished. I really don't like watching sports just to pay the atheletes when I can instead be spending my money for those in real need of money. I am not a athlete worshipper. I admire those who are in the service professions, helping those who need help. Athletes?! Bah! As far as Kobe's problems, I don't know if he did rape her, but I really feel sorry for his wife. What the hell was he thinking? Adultery. Cheating on his wife. No I don't feel sorry for him. Maybe this will deflate his pompous ego down to earth.
So you're blaming him for being way better than most other players, and that therefore the clubowner is willing to pay him a big fat salary ? And that large companies are willing to give him millions in endorsements if he wears their stuff, or drinks their stuff ?

Is it his fault that children in Africa have nothing to eat, or only have rags to wear ?

For your information, Kobe makes millions a year, but he is also spending tons on charity. So your comment isn't really fair, don't you think ?
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I think it serves him right. Anyone in his position who doesn't carry around a Waiver and make people sign it before having sex is being stupid. Gold-diggers exist, in fact abound, and these guys are rich enough to consult their attorneys and cover their asses. When you have a lot, you are simply a target.
I hear that Wayne Gretzky absolutely refused to get into situations like this. For instance, he would not ever let himself be alone in an elevator with a woman he didn't trust, just in case some golddigger saw the chance to make a few bucks.

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But, Harley, no crime can in truth be won on a "beyond all reasonable doubt" standard if all you have is woman's testimony vs. man's.
Except in England, where the government is trying to change the law so that the man has to prove the woman consented, instea dof her having to prove she didn't.

Wonderful British government, eh?
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I think there's gonna be a trial, unless the alledged victim goes the Micheal Jackson's alledged victim's route and drops charges for a nice fee.
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Old 07-21-2003, 02:48 PM   #15
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I think there's gonna be a trial, unless the alledged victim goes the Micheal Jackson's alledged victim's route and drops charges for a nice fee.
Imo that would prove that she's nothing but a shark. If she's REALLY raped, she'd take this all the way.
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Old 07-21-2003, 03:08 PM   #16
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I think there's gonna be a trial, unless the alledged victim goes the Micheal Jackson's alledged victim's route and drops charges for a nice fee.
Imo that would prove that she's nothing but a shark. If she's REALLY raped, she'd take this all the way. [/QUOTE]*snif* *snif* [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] Nope, this doesn't pass either the sniff or the straight-face test. A 19-yr-old letting such high principals cut her off from millions in recovery. Riiiight. Let us assume he DID do it (which I think is untrue): then she cannot UN-do it, can she? So, she can have the moral satisfaction of seeing him in jail for 4 years (he'd get the minimum being a first-time offender, famous, rich, and a nice guy), or she can pay for college and finance the rest of her LIFE for a few million in settlement. Hmmm.... I would hope she'd be smart enought to take the money and run.

If she didn't do it.... well, then we're back to gold-digging aren't we.
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Old 07-21-2003, 03:14 PM   #17
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But, for every one of those who cry rape when it's not, there are others who were actually raped, but don't speak up because they're afraid that no one would believe them. Even with proof, it's hard to get a conviction, and even then, more times then not, the victim is blamed anyway by those in society. We rarely hear the same accustations pointed to victims of murder and other violent crimes.
I realize there are touchy issues on both sides of this. There are real victims every day. By the time you finish reading this post, 3 women in America will have been raped. But, there are also sharks out there who take advantage of these situations -- and more of them everyday.
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:06 AM   #18
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I don't know if he did it or not, but I do Know this if he had kept it in his pants there wouldn't be any problem.
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:51 AM   #19
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What do I think of Kobe? Hmm, well I think he's an overpaid athlete just like most pro athletes. Alot more people, especially children, are starving or undereducated. They wear ragged clothes and are malnourished. I really don't like watching sports just to pay the atheletes when I can instead be spending my money for those in real need of money. I am not a athlete worshipper. I admire those who are in the service professions, helping those who need help. Athletes?! Bah! As far as Kobe's problems, I don't know if he did rape her, but I really feel sorry for his wife. What the hell was he thinking? Adultery. Cheating on his wife. No I don't feel sorry for him. Maybe this will deflate his pompous ego down to earth.
I don't think you should blame the athlete. If you want to blame someone point the finger at the owners or the agents. They are the ones that deal with the money. Athlete's are just people who have dedicated their lives to something they love, just like someone in a service profession you mentioned. Some people are blessed with a big heart or a super intellect, and some are blessed physically. Should they be denied the opportunity to use their god given talents to make themselves and other people happy? And when it comes to all that money I haven't heard of an athlete who doesn't donate to charity. Look at Dikembe Mutumbo, he's donated 3.5 million dollars of his own money to help build a hospital in Kinshasa, Congo. Things like that happen and they don't get publicized. But if something negative happens it's all over the news, even if it is only an allegation.


I heard that the girl involved with Kobe was on the American Idol show not to long ago and when she didn't win she blew up and had a big breakdown. Another of the girls said she was "unstable". Anyone else hear about this?
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Old 07-22-2003, 05:09 PM   #20
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Of course he did it. He's a spoiled rich kid with more money than he knows what to do with and hes not used to being told no, when she did he forced her.
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