Help With Tolkiens Language

[Lavindathar]

After recent events, I want to have

"TO PROVE YOU WRONG" tattoed on my arm, in Tolkien's Elven I think.

Can anyone do me a .jpg of this? If anyone knows how to translate it......... Or any other tolkien language!

[Lioness]

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shad.../4101/e-q.html

This is a English-Quenyan dictionary, if you want it in High Elvish.

[Attalus]

Are you going to have it done in the Faenorian letters, or in Daeron's Runes?

[Charlie]

Dunno if this will help.

http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/

[Lavindathar]

I aint sure what I want it in, as long as no-one understands it when they read it, but it also has to be an exact translation of some language, so if ever need be people could translate it.

I just want one that looks good, and I know Elven does!

I'll check links now!

Lioness - I dont want real letters, I want elven writing that is just lines and stuff.
Thanx anyway!

Want it this style -

But, saying TO PROVE YOU WRONG.

HELP!

[ 04-27-2003, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: Lavindathar ]

[Larry_OHF]

Give me a bit and I will do what I can.

Currently researching it.


Do you just want the letters turned into elven characters, or do you want the complete translation as well as the way to write it?

[ 04-27-2003, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

[Melusine]

Don't want to discourage you Lav (good to see you BTW! [img]smile.gif[/img] ), but it could prove difficult. The syntax of the phrase you want is kind of difficult, not something anyone could translate into Quenya or Sindarin (Tolkien's elven languages) - especially as there isn't a complete vocabulary for the languages so there may not even *be* a translation. A lot of the "Tolkien elven" stuff people come up with using an online dictionary is flawed at the least and discredits the enormous work Tolkien put into the languages. We shouldn't forget he was a professor, an expert at languages with probably a lot better grasp of syntax, sentence structure, case endings and things like that than we have.

What you *could* do, of course, is simply write "to prove you wrong" in elven script, but not actually in the Elvish language. [img]smile.gif[/img]
To do that, you could try and find a Tolkien font that allows you to type in elvish script. If you want, there's another option, too - I practise calligraphy and own a copy of "The Languages of Tolkien's Middle Earth" which has detailed info on this stuff. If you'd like I could write down the phrase you want in Elven script and scan it.

Hope that helps.

[ 04-27-2003, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

[Lavindathar]

When I said Elven language, as long as it looks like that picture I drew, thats what I want!

Do what you can!!! Thankyou!!!!

As long as Tolkien created the language or script, it'd be great!

[Melusine]

Well, what you would do is use the Elven alphabet to write an English phrase. That'd be by far the easiest and most accurate, and it would look like those letters you posted, yeah.
So are you going to find a font or do you want me to write it out? I'd need
to know because I'd have to design it for a bit and while I'd be willing to do it, it would be a wasted effort if you decided to go with something else in the end. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 04-27-2003, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

[Larry_OHF]

I see Melusine is already on the task, and seems to have more resources than I...so I will turn it over to her.