A POLL on the Aurora Toolset

Memnoch · 08-22-2002, 02:21 AM

Obviously this is for people who have used the Toolset, though those that haven't are welcome to view the results. Please be HONEST.

[ 08-22-2002, 02:22 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

WOLFGIR · 08-22-2002, 03:29 AM

Well have only been able to dabble with it so far, and I don´t know **** about C++ and probably never will, so I have to copy paste and trial and error with scripting, or ask a friendly pseudonym here

I gor for item creation since that is fairly easy to do. Hopefully I will be able to make some maps for downloading and generate some mindless monsters. Slaads are great monsters

Memnoch · 08-22-2002, 04:12 AM

Seems like everyone's struggling with the scripting a bit - that's what I found most difficult (am still finding). I don't have a C++ background (I'm in brand marketing!!) so it's all Sanskrit to me, though I'm slowly starting to understand the fundamentals. The problem is that there's so many different scripts to accomplish the same thing, it's difficult to find a consistent thread with them. Also, there's so many little details eg local variables, etc and a whole bunch of functions that are used in scripts and if you don't know what you are looking for it's almost impossible to put it together until you get more familiar with it.

Having said that, I think I'm slowly starting to get there - I can script simple stuff and build a working module from that, but some of the things I want to do are quite complex, which is probably my fault.

Obsidian the Black · 08-22-2002, 08:37 AM

Yep, scriptin is very difficult if u dont get the hang of it.

AndyG · 08-22-2002, 08:49 AM

I've just dabbled in it so far, I haven't done a solid building effort.

I find it frustrating that there are so few wizards. It seems there should be a conversation wizard, at the very least. It's time consuming to build a conversation line by line, and the process could certainly be streamlined.

As a programmer by trade, I expect I'll get the hang of it once I sit down with it for a few hours.

As far as custom content, I'm no graphic artist, so if I use any, it will be pre-built. Hopefully, as time goes on, some of the better hak paks will be incorporated into the game. Currently, it's fairly limiting that you can only use one hak pack per module.

WOLFGIR · 08-22-2002, 08:51 AM

Well personally I´m waiting for an expansion to NWN now!

Something along the line with a new adventure for Singleplayer.. No need to continue the previous story and why not implement some of the new Epic rules? Some updates to the Aurora toolset as well??

MORE WIZARDS!!

Larry_OHF · 08-22-2002, 09:04 AM

My votes are in.

Memnoch · 08-22-2002, 09:30 AM

Speaking of which, does anyone know of any good scripting tutorials around?

WOLFGIR · 08-22-2002, 09:40 AM

Well apart from the tutorial that is meager on biowares homesite, you have all the NWNplanet, nwntavernn http://www.nwtavern.com/ etc etc..

But since I don´t have understood iota yet, I can´t tell wether they are good or not yet.. :S

Draggor · 08-22-2002, 10:17 AM

I'm in pretty much the same boat as everyone else. The scripting is confusing for me at this stage. I've really only dabbled with the tool set, and most of what I have done is only after a bit of reverse engineering. There's definitely a lot you can do with the toolset, if only I knew how.

View Poll Results: How easy did you find learning how to use the toolset?
Very difficult	2	9.52%
Difficult	6	28.57%
Not that difficult, but not that easy	11	52.38%
Easy	1	4.76%
Very easy	1	4.76%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

08-22-2002, 02:21 AM	#1
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	Obviously this is for people who have used the Toolset, though those that haven't are welcome to view the results. Please be HONEST. [ 08-22-2002, 02:22 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ] __________________

08-22-2002, 03:29 AM	#2
WOLFGIR Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 3,450	Well have only been able to dabble with it so far, and I don´t know **** about C++ and probably never will, so I have to copy paste and trial and error with scripting, or ask a friendly pseudonym here I gor for item creation since that is fairly easy to do. Hopefully I will be able to make some maps for downloading and generate some mindless monsters. Slaads are great monsters __________________ Don´t eat the yellow snow

08-22-2002, 04:12 AM	#3
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	Seems like everyone's struggling with the scripting a bit - that's what I found most difficult (am still finding). I don't have a C++ background (I'm in brand marketing!!) so it's all Sanskrit to me, though I'm slowly starting to understand the fundamentals. The problem is that there's so many different scripts to accomplish the same thing, it's difficult to find a consistent thread with them. Also, there's so many little details eg local variables, etc and a whole bunch of functions that are used in scripts and if you don't know what you are looking for it's almost impossible to put it together until you get more familiar with it. Having said that, I think I'm slowly starting to get there - I can script simple stuff and build a working module from that, but some of the things I want to do are quite complex, which is probably my fault. __________________

08-22-2002, 08:37 AM	#4
Obsidian the Black Elminster Join Date: May 8, 2002 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 470	Yep, scriptin is very difficult if u dont get the hang of it. __________________ Caelic's Wowwiki information page

08-22-2002, 08:49 AM	#5
AndyG Elminster Join Date: June 20, 2002 Location: Manchester, CT Age: 55 Posts: 422	I've just dabbled in it so far, I haven't done a solid building effort. I find it frustrating that there are so few wizards. It seems there should be a conversation wizard, at the very least. It's time consuming to build a conversation line by line, and the process could certainly be streamlined. As a programmer by trade, I expect I'll get the hang of it once I sit down with it for a few hours. As far as custom content, I'm no graphic artist, so if I use any, it will be pre-built. Hopefully, as time goes on, some of the better hak paks will be incorporated into the game. Currently, it's fairly limiting that you can only use one hak pack per module.

08-22-2002, 08:51 AM	#6
WOLFGIR Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 3,450	Well personally I´m waiting for an expansion to NWN now! Something along the line with a new adventure for Singleplayer.. No need to continue the previous story and why not implement some of the new Epic rules? Some updates to the Aurora toolset as well?? MORE WIZARDS!! __________________ Don´t eat the yellow snow

08-22-2002, 09:04 AM	#7
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	My votes are in.

08-22-2002, 09:30 AM	#8
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	Speaking of which, does anyone know of any good scripting tutorials around? __________________

08-22-2002, 09:40 AM	#9
WOLFGIR Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 3,450	Well apart from the tutorial that is meager on biowares homesite, you have all the NWNplanet, nwntavernn http://www.nwtavern.com/ etc etc.. But since I don´t have understood iota yet, I can´t tell wether they are good or not yet.. :S __________________ Don´t eat the yellow snow

08-22-2002, 10:17 AM	#10
Draggor Zhentarim Guard Join Date: March 9, 2001 Location: Cranebrook, NSW, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 396	I'm in pretty much the same boat as everyone else. The scripting is confusing for me at this stage. I've really only dabbled with the tool set, and most of what I have done is only after a bit of reverse engineering. There's definitely a lot you can do with the toolset, if only I knew how. __________________ visit western sydneys number 1 wargames club WSGS on the web at<br />[url]\"http://www.westernsuburbsgamesociety.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.westernsuburbsgamesociety.co m</a><br />yes we play D&D

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