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02-02-2005, 10:27 PM | #32 |
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sephiroth from final fantasy Vii he may be the antagonist but he's noble...to a certain extent [img]tongue.gif[/img] or he's just cool as hell anyways seriously....i'd say Link from zelda..if that's considered an rpg? |
02-03-2005, 05:55 AM | #33 |
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So, no one thinks... Drizzt?
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02-05-2005, 09:21 AM | #34 |
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Drizzt is a pansy. I slap him around in every BG game I play (unless I'm a paladin). "Friends await" my ass, eat steel, drow chump!
Hierophant: By noble I mean: Having or showing qualities of high moral character, such as courage, generosity, or honor: a noble spirit. |
02-05-2005, 09:50 PM | #35 | |
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Or are you going to look at me sideways when I ask you "whose morality?' and say 'huh? What do you mean 'whose morality?'! I mean morality! THE morality! Good and evil! Duh! It's so simple! You're so annoying! Stop trying to start trouble!" If so, then I'm afraid I have to shake my head slowly, sigh as frustratedly as I can, and leave the discussion table here and now, muttering something under my breath about understanding how Nietzsche must have felt... [ 02-05-2005, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]
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02-06-2005, 06:24 AM | #36 | ||
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He's somewhat of a controversial figure on IW (good job mentioning him Marty!) since he obviously incites much idiotic irrational hatred and shameless, thoughtless adoration also. A balanced view on Drizzt, seems few and far between. [img]smile.gif[/img] I'll offer a couple of points on him. One significant noble factor with Drizzt for me, is the fact that in the novel "Homeland", in growing up, he is able to introspectively reject the 'herd' morality indoctrination of his drow heritage by secretly forming ideas and opinions of his own for what is 'right' or 'wrong'. One example that comes to mind is when he held his sword back from a young elven maid on a ritualistic drow raid of the surface. Whilst his people generally saw this as a moral weakness in showing pity towards a 'lesser being', a sign of dissent, Drizzt saw the act of murder in cold blood as a waste of life. One could argue that this was a noble act by reinforcing the value of life and the right for others to live. Drizzt individuated by freeing himself of the restrictions set upon him, which distinguishes himself from those who are happy enough to accept and swallow without thinking, the values that their society offers them. His relationships with Bruenor, Montolio, Belwar and Catti-Brie in particular show a forging of arguably 'noble' values, but I would counter that his general aloofness from most societies at large, means his type of nobility is a very lonely one. So I wouldn't be so dogmatic as to say that he's a shining example for everyone in terms of nobility or morality. Quote:
"There are no moral facts, only interpretations." - Friedrich Nietzsche. Lord British would also be pleased that you included two avatarly virtues in your definition. @ Hiero. Although I disagreed on a couple minor points, we're effectively in agreeance with each other. I'm a pacifist, so I wasn't aware of any 'fighting', but I don't deny that I enjoy a verbal joust or two. Cheers, Cerebrodragon
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[/QUOTE]I don't think I can take on Drizzt. I know I can. BG2. My party versus his. It came down to me versus him. Critical hit with Cfury. Then another hit. Then another. Then another. Eventually I got his stuff and pawned it. |
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02-09-2005, 04:24 AM | #38 |
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I guess you answered my question then.
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Fenthick Moss from NWN or Raven from Arcanum get my pick.
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