Best Informal Title for Climatic Battle of D.E. (spoiler)

NobleNick · 03-05-2002, 09:29 PM

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I think I will always remember the fight with Yux as, "The Battle of the Gazongas."

This was my first REALLY tough battle in the game: The first one where I didn't say, "Oh, yeah, I see how I screwed up. I'll just reload and kick derriere." After getting my tush kicked severely (lost 4 of 6 party members), I reloaded and took my party back and cleaned out the whole D.E. level 5 (I had skipped all the side rooms). This allowed a few chracters to level. This, plus a little rest, and my knowledge of what to expect in THAT room, allowed my party to win the second time around; but it still wasn't easy.

So, are any battles in Severed Hand harder (relative to expected party strength), than that final battle with Yux?

Dundee Slaytern · 03-05-2002, 09:54 PM

"Over-rated Fight"

Azred · 03-06-2002, 11:45 AM

What an...interesting...title you have chosen. [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

I don't think any battles in the Severed Hand will be more difficult than the finish of Dragon's Eye, but the layout of the former elven home can cause you problems if your party gets split up.

Micah Foehammer · 03-06-2002, 01:44 PM

I kind of agree with Dundee ... Yuxonomei is not pushover, but I personally think the previous High Summoner level is tougher - especially on Heart of Fury mode.

NobleNick · 03-06-2002, 02:25 PM

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Micah,

Hmmm... It is odd how different folks can play the same game and find different parts harder. I blew right through the High Summoner level, like a ginsu blade through cheesecake, and never even had the help from Christiana Knight and Co. (I found them in the very last room I visited.) I think that a big chunk of the reason I had it easy might be twofold:
1.) By chance, I chose a route that led me fairly directly to the high summoners' chamber.
2.) By habit, I pause the game immediately after completing an action; so that I can think in peace about what to do next.

I think that these two choices colluded to make it appear (from the in-game perspective) like I made a bee-line to the high summoners' chamber and immediately toasted them. --- (Heh, heh, short stops along the way to kill Sharra and very RUDELY interrupt a snake banquet.) There were three guys in the summoners room - don't know how many of them were actually doing the summoning. --- Anyway, as a consequence, the first wave of snakes and "peace-loving" invisible "priests" (or whatever they were) was, by far, the hardest part of this level for me; and it wasn't nearly as hard as the battle with Yux. After I got through the first wave, I didn't have to fight many summoned creatures; and the ones I did encounter were in very small groups.

[ 03-06-2002: Message edited by: NobleNick ]

Micah Foehammer · 03-06-2002, 02:48 PM

Nick,

I agree ... but part of the difference in perception is due to the difference in difficulty setting. When I played through on normal difficulty, quite frankly, I didn't have much trouble with any of the battles except for a little bit with Yux the first time, and then Malavon. On heart of fury mode, things changed dramatically! The high summoner became a MAJOR problem - because (as has been pointed out in a much earlier thread) his "summoned" monsters are the result of a script and not a spell and therefore are not subjected to the normal eight hour time limit. So the typical tactic of hit and run, rest, hit and run, rest - repeat as needed - generates a HUGH number of summoned monsters to fight! I swear that the HS's room was stacked floor to ceiling with trolls and lizardmen when we FINALLY got there.

[img]smile.gif[/img]

NobleNick · 03-06-2002, 06:19 PM

Hooo boy!! Can't wait to get through this wimpy normal stuff and play on that HoF mode!

Micah Foehammer · 03-06-2002, 06:25 PM

Nick,

Make it a REAL challenge and start an entirely new first level party and play through IWD, HOW and TOL from start to finish on HOF mode!!!

You'll learn to hate and fear goblins above ALL things!!! ROTFL

[img]smile.gif[/img]

03-06-2002, 11:45 AM	#3
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	What an...interesting...title you have chosen. [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] I don't think any battles in the Severed Hand will be more difficult than the finish of Dragon's Eye, but the layout of the former elven home can cause you problems if your party gets split up. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

03-06-2002, 01:44 PM	#4
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	I kind of agree with Dundee ... Yuxonomei is not pushover, but I personally think the previous High Summoner level is tougher - especially on Heart of Fury mode. __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

03-06-2002, 02:48 PM	#6
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	Nick, I agree ... but part of the difference in perception is due to the difference in difficulty setting. When I played through on normal difficulty, quite frankly, I didn't have much trouble with any of the battles except for a little bit with Yux the first time, and then Malavon. On heart of fury mode, things changed dramatically! The high summoner became a MAJOR problem - because (as has been pointed out in a much earlier thread) his "summoned" monsters are the result of a script and not a spell and therefore are not subjected to the normal eight hour time limit. So the typical tactic of hit and run, rest, hit and run, rest - repeat as needed - generates a HUGH number of summoned monsters to fight! I swear that the HS's room was stacked floor to ceiling with trolls and lizardmen when we FINALLY got there. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

03-06-2002, 06:25 PM	#8
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	Nick, Make it a REAL challenge and start an entirely new first level party and play through IWD, HOW and TOL from start to finish on HOF mode!!! You'll learn to hate and fear goblins above ALL things!!! ROTFL [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

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03-05-2002, 09:29 PM	#1
NobleNick Quintesson Join Date: February 5, 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL, USA Age: 63 Posts: 1,045	(spoiler) . . . . . . . . . . . I think I will always remember the fight with Yux as, "The Battle of the Gazongas." This was my first REALLY tough battle in the game: The first one where I didn't say, "Oh, yeah, I see how I screwed up. I'll just reload and kick derriere." After getting my tush kicked severely (lost 4 of 6 party members), I reloaded and took my party back and cleaned out the whole D.E. level 5 (I had skipped all the side rooms). This allowed a few chracters to level. This, plus a little rest, and my knowledge of what to expect in THAT room, allowed my party to win the second time around; but it still wasn't easy. So, are any battles in Severed Hand harder (relative to expected party strength), than that final battle with Yux?

03-05-2002, 09:54 PM	#2
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	"Over-rated Fight"

03-06-2002, 02:25 PM	#5
NobleNick Quintesson Join Date: February 5, 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL, USA Age: 63 Posts: 1,045	(spoiler) . . . . . Micah, Hmmm... It is odd how different folks can play the same game and find different parts harder. I blew right through the High Summoner level, like a ginsu blade through cheesecake, and never even had the help from Christiana Knight and Co. (I found them in the very last room I visited.) I think that a big chunk of the reason I had it easy might be twofold: 1.) By chance, I chose a route that led me fairly directly to the high summoners' chamber. 2.) By habit, I pause the game immediately after completing an action; so that I can think in peace about what to do next. I think that these two choices colluded to make it appear (from the in-game perspective) like I made a bee-line to the high summoners' chamber and immediately toasted them. --- (Heh, heh, short stops along the way to kill Sharra and very RUDELY interrupt a snake banquet.) There were three guys in the summoners room - don't know how many of them were actually doing the summoning. --- Anyway, as a consequence, the first wave of snakes and "peace-loving" invisible "priests" (or whatever they were) was, by far, the hardest part of this level for me; and it wasn't nearly as hard as the battle with Yux. After I got through the first wave, I didn't have to fight many summoned creatures; and the ones I did encounter were in very small groups. [ 03-06-2002: Message edited by: NobleNick ]

03-06-2002, 06:19 PM	#7
NobleNick Quintesson Join Date: February 5, 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL, USA Age: 63 Posts: 1,045	Hooo boy!! Can't wait to get through this wimpy normal stuff and play on that HoF mode!

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