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Niadh · 01-21-2004, 03:27 PM

Wasn't the Cleric of Deneir posted on teh WotC site a year or so ago? I remember reading some of it.

SpiritWarrior · 01-21-2004, 04:07 PM

Yah I know It's a template officially but can loosely be known as a PRC since the actual classes themselves involve the special abilities. But such is my point about Elminster: The only way they can truly be used in NWN's is via prestige.

The harper scout is terrible. The 'create harper pin' ability was never implemented but was intended at first.

Sparhawk I agree that some mind aff. bonuses should be available. I was thinking along the lines of bonus(free) feats at certain levels such as Iron Will. Diamond body and absolute immunity to mind aff. should I think, be reserved for high-level monks though, for balance purposes. Immunity to disease could and neg. energy could be done via purity of body and like feats.Again giving a PRC feats that are currently available for certain classes is a bit more work. There would also be a minimum cleric level req probably 10 (maybe even 20 for HOTU) levels.

Yes Niadh it was and still is however, it is in PNP format, thus the talk of coversion and adaption.

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 01-21-2004, 05:33 PM

Except Iron Will is supposed to be a prerequisite...
::brightly:: *I* know!
Maybe if they gave you, oh, I don't know, some spells?
DECENT spells?
Instead of one useless, pathetic spell per level, what if they were to give you ::gasp:: Something you could USE?!
Ugh!
I'm going to go cry now. (Actually, I'm going to go check on recent posts. But the effect is the same! Sort of!)

(But really. Maybe they could give you some high-level rogue feats like {improved} Evasion... Slippery Mind seems even more appropriate)

SpiritWarrior · 01-21-2004, 11:41 PM

Iron will a pre req for what? I'm confused :|.

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 01-22-2004, 12:07 AM

Iron Will is supposed to be a prerequisite for the Harper Scout prestige class, according to the FR handbook.

SpiritWarrior · 01-22-2004, 02:42 AM

Sorry yeah, thought you were talking about the chosen of deneir pre-req. Do you realize that in SOU the only prestige class they were actually gonna release was the HS and only that? Could you imagine the havoc? [img]redface.gif[/img]

[ 01-22-2004, 02:45 AM: Message edited by: SpiritWarrior ]

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 01-22-2004, 12:48 PM

I only own NWN... I can't get the other two or even play NWN any more, because it won't run on my laptop... Laptops simply won't support that caliber of graphics ::sniffle:: And I never finished my mod, my beautiful beautiful mod...
Er, yeah.

Stratos · 01-22-2004, 02:19 PM

Here, have a tissue...

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 01-22-2004, 02:58 PM

Thank you... It's just such a shame, you know? I don't like it at all.

SpiritWarrior · 01-22-2004, 10:15 PM

Not sure what kind of laptop you have but I know the newer ones are easier to upgrade. You should be able to play SOU though if you ever get the original working...

That said, I had the same problem with my other computer running an old geforce 2 mx. NWN and SOU ran fine (settings on low) but come HotU the framerate dropped to a crawl. It's weird because they said the augmentation to graphics only applied to new tilesets and creatures yet my old mods created in SOU would act terrible. I eventually upgraded the second system to an fx.

[ 01-22-2004, 10:28 PM: Message edited by: SpiritWarrior ]

01-21-2004, 03:27 PM	#21
Niadh Elminster Join Date: August 16, 2002 Location: Scotland Age: 39 Posts: 401	Wasn't the Cleric of Deneir posted on teh WotC site a year or so ago? I remember reading some of it. __________________ A Knight is sworn to darkness. <br />His heart knows only hatred.<br />His sword destroys the helpless,<br />His might imprisons the weak.<br />His wrath upholds the wicked, <br />His word speaks only lies.<br /><br /> [img]\"http://www.boomspeed.com/niadh/newiwsig.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />

01-21-2004, 04:07 PM	#22
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Yah I know It's a template officially but can loosely be known as a PRC since the actual classes themselves involve the special abilities. But such is my point about Elminster: The only way they can truly be used in NWN's is via prestige. The harper scout is terrible. The 'create harper pin' ability was never implemented but was intended at first. Sparhawk I agree that some mind aff. bonuses should be available. I was thinking along the lines of bonus(free) feats at certain levels such as Iron Will. Diamond body and absolute immunity to mind aff. should I think, be reserved for high-level monks though, for balance purposes. Immunity to disease could and neg. energy could be done via purity of body and like feats.Again giving a PRC feats that are currently available for certain classes is a bit more work. There would also be a minimum cleric level req probably 10 (maybe even 20 for HOTU) levels. Yes Niadh it was and still is however, it is in PNP format, thus the talk of coversion and adaption. __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

01-21-2004, 05:33 PM	#23
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 38 Posts: 4,673	Except Iron Will is supposed to be a prerequisite... ::brightly:: I know! Maybe if they gave you, oh, I don't know, some spells? DECENT spells? Instead of one useless, pathetic spell per level, what if they were to give you ::gasp:: Something you could USE?! Ugh! I'm going to go cry now. (Actually, I'm going to go check on recent posts. But the effect is the same! Sort of!) (But really. Maybe they could give you some high-level rogue feats like {improved} Evasion... Slippery Mind seems even more appropriate) __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

01-21-2004, 11:41 PM	#24
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Iron will a pre req for what? I'm confused :\|. __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

01-22-2004, 12:07 AM	#25
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 38 Posts: 4,673	Iron Will is supposed to be a prerequisite for the Harper Scout prestige class, according to the FR handbook. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

01-22-2004, 02:42 AM	#26
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Sorry yeah, thought you were talking about the chosen of deneir pre-req. Do you realize that in SOU the only prestige class they were actually gonna release was the HS and only that? Could you imagine the havoc? [img]redface.gif[/img] [ 01-22-2004, 02:45 AM: Message edited by: SpiritWarrior ] __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

01-22-2004, 12:48 PM	#27
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 38 Posts: 4,673	I only own NWN... I can't get the other two or even play NWN any more, because it won't run on my laptop... Laptops simply won't support that caliber of graphics ::sniffle:: And I never finished my mod, my beautiful beautiful mod... Er, yeah. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

01-22-2004, 02:19 PM	#28
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 3,888	Here, have a tissue... __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

01-22-2004, 02:58 PM	#29
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 38 Posts: 4,673	Thank you... It's just such a shame, you know? I don't like it at all. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

01-22-2004, 10:15 PM	#30
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Not sure what kind of laptop you have but I know the newer ones are easier to upgrade. You should be able to play SOU though if you ever get the original working... That said, I had the same problem with my other computer running an old geforce 2 mx. NWN and SOU ran fine (settings on low) but come HotU the framerate dropped to a crawl. It's weird because they said the augmentation to graphics only applied to new tilesets and creatures yet my old mods created in SOU would act terrible. I eventually upgraded the second system to an fx. [ 01-22-2004, 10:28 PM: Message edited by: SpiritWarrior ] __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

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