Just seen LoTR:TTT

[Xen]

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I have read the book(s)
I am just from the cinema and i have just seen The Lord Of The Rings:The Two Towers.
First impression(s):
-Why isn`t Aragorn`s Anduril more efective?
-Legolas looks cool when he throws one shield under his legs and slide/skate downstairs!
-Gandalf should be more Magic-Support mage not a Fighter with staff(afterall he is not Jon Irenicus)
-Gimli speeks so funny...
-Scadufax should be shown more faster...like a lightning
-Why Faramir kiddnapes Frodo and Sam(in the book just helps them and hi is not taking them to The White City-Gondor)

Well this is all,but the movie is GREAT!!!!!
Well some parts should not been "cut out" from the book...

Xen

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[Gazza]

Ok i'll answer your points as best I can one at a time.

1.I dont think it is Anduril that Aragorn uses in TTT, someone please correct me if im wrong.
2.I agree. Thought that was a great little addition.
3.The reason Gandalf doesn't use much magic is because Peter Jackson hates how wizards have been portrayed in other movies with lightning bolts coming out of there fingers and stuff so he chose not to have Gandalf like that.
4.I personally thought Gimli was really good and added some comedy to what is otherwise quite a dark movie.
5.I was kind of wondering myself why Shadowfax wasn't faster.
6.Faramir takes Sam and Frodo prisoner because Peter Jackson worked so hard to show how much power the ring had on men in FOTR he couldn't have Faramir just reject it as if it did,t have any power over him.

[Attalus]

The movie didn't make a big deal out of it, but the sword that Aragorn carries on the Quest of the Ring is definitely Anduril. It was re-forged from Narsil's shards by elven-smiths in Rivendale before the Fellowship left, and Galadriel gave him an elven-sheath that had the virue that the blade drawn from it would never be stained or broken, even in defeat. It is Andruril that he lays against the wall of Edoras in compliance with Hama's command, saying, "Here I set it, but I command you not to touch it, nor permit anyother to lay hands on it. In this elvish sheath dwells the Blade that was Broken and has been made again. Telchar first wrought it in the deeps of time. Death shall come to any man who draws Elendi's sword save Elendil's heir." TTT, "The King of the Golden Hall," p. 115, single volume hardback.

[ 02-02-2003, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: Attalus ]

[Sir Goulum]

Horses can only run so fast, ya know! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

And as for Gandalf...I thought his magic was shown, though subtly and not very much!

[Larry_OHF]

<font color=skyblue>In a letter that Tolkien wrote to some fans,,,he mentioned that he thinks he overdid the word Wizard and Magic in his books, and never intended for us to think of Gandalf as a sorcerer of spells. Instead, Gandalf is actually using a "divine" power...supernatural in it's origin. He is also restricted by the Valar from using his real talents. </font>

<font color=white>Para-phrased from The Letters of JRR Tolkien, Edited by H. Carpenter with C. Tolkien, 159, 199) * Wizard was meant to be something utterly distinct from Sorcerer or Magician. * Tolkien worries that he is "too casual" about referring to magic at all. The question, he says, is very difficult to explain. * With regards to the story being from the point of view of a hobbit, he says..."Hobbits have never, in fact, studied magic of any kind". Therefore, what appears to be magic to them, might be superior knowledge rather than enchantment.</font>

[ 02-02-2003, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

[Attalus]

This is in line with Galadriel's puzzlement when the word "magic" is applied to her arts. She says to Sam, "...this is what your folk would call magic, I believe, though I do not understand clearly what they mean; and they seem also to use the same word of the deceits of the Enemy. But, this, if you will, is the magic of Galadriel." "The Mirror of Galadriel.", FOTR, p.377.

[Sir Goulum]

Originally posted by Larry_OHF: <font color=skyblue>In a letter that Tolkien wrote to some fans,,,he mentioned that he thinks he overdid the word Wizard and Magic in his books, and never intended for us to think of Gandalf as a sorcerer of spells. Instead, Gandalf is actually using a "divine" power...supernatural in it's origin. He is also restricted by the Valar from using his real talents. </font>

I'd read about that too. You'd think they'd be allowed to if Sauron got TOO powerful! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[arion windrider]

the books are awesome. the fotr didnt show that aragorn got his sword back.. i wish it did show that... but he does use his true sword(anduril) from the time the fellowship left rivendell...i like gandalf the way he is in the movies. he is more of an adviser/warrior in the movies.. the books if i remember correctly didnt portray him as a magic user... he was just very gifted.. he did use his magic against saurman....

[ 02-02-2003, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: arion windrider ]

[Tancred]

In the book, Aragorn is determined to reclaim his kingship. In the film, he is distinctly reluctant. The film and the book differ over the reforging of Anduril; in the book, it's done at Rivendell before the Company set out. In the film... it hasn't happened yet. There's even a re-edited scene in the Extended Edition of Fellowship with Elrond making the offer to reforge Narsil - and Aragorn turning it down.

I like the way magic is being handled the films! Magic - for Wizards, anyway - is like having a kind of minor authority over the Earth. It's subtle and in the background, but always there. That's Middle-Earth alright.

[ 02-02-2003, 08:37 PM: Message edited by: Tancred ]

[Wulfere]

In the movie version of TTT Aragorn is still using the same old tired sword he used in the first movie. He doesn't have Anduril yet. Look at the hilt of the weapon and you can see the differance.