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Old 11-01-2002, 11:32 AM   #31
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For cat owners:

The "toxic" substance in chocolate is Theobromine. Itīs a methylxanthine (smae group as coffee [img]smile.gif[/img] ). The efects of thebromine in cats are the same as caffeine in humans, that is diuretic, increased heart rate and force of contraction. In cats it can also cause seizure and sometimes death. Now theobromin is natural in cocoa beans and is therefore present in all chocolate. But IIRC itīs more harmful for dogs than cats...
I think Carob is ok for animals, isn't it? I know it's safe for people with allergies.

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Old 11-01-2002, 11:32 AM   #32
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Unfortunately, both of them are blue-black, so I have nothing to show for the red-black, but I have seen them before. I may try to find a picture elsewhere of a red-black leopard and post it for comparison.

Note the spots on Onyx's flank...clearly leopard spots. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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P.S. Just found one: here's an example of a red-black leopard:

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Damn...those are some beautiful animals. Thanks for the pics Saz. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-01-2002, 11:33 AM   #33
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Awww, bless! Good thing we're cat people or [img]graemlins/choc.gif[/img] would have us, hmm?

*mental note: make that picture desktop. Am fed up of blue background of windows 2K.*
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Old 11-01-2002, 11:34 AM   #34
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quote:
Originally posted by WillowIX:
For cat owners:

The "toxic" substance in chocolate is Theobromine. Itīs a methylxanthine (smae group as coffee [img]smile.gif[/img] ). The efects of thebromine in cats are the same as caffeine in humans, that is diuretic, increased heart rate and force of contraction. In cats it can also cause seizure and sometimes death. Now theobromin is natural in cocoa beans and is therefore present in all chocolate. But IIRC itīs more harmful for dogs than cats...
I think Carob is ok for animals, isn't it? I know it's safe for people with allergies.

-Saz
[/QUOTE]AFAIK Carob isn't chocolate, so it shouldn't be a problem. I suppose you could ask your vet.
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Old 11-01-2002, 11:36 AM   #35
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quote:
Originally posted by WillowIX:
For cat owners:

The "toxic" substance in chocolate is Theobromine. Itīs a methylxanthine (smae group as coffee [img]smile.gif[/img] ). The efects of thebromine in cats are the same as caffeine in humans, that is diuretic, increased heart rate and force of contraction. In cats it can also cause seizure and sometimes death. Now theobromin is natural in cocoa beans and is therefore present in all chocolate. But IIRC itīs more harmful for dogs than cats...
I think Carob is ok for animals, isn't it? I know it's safe for people with allergies.

-Saz
[/QUOTE]Thanks Willow! Good post!

Saz, I routinely buy 'carob and peanut butter' dog biscuits for my dad's German Shepherd so yup, they can have it. And she LOVES the things! [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-01-2002, 11:37 AM   #36
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Thanks Willow! Good post!

Saz, I routinely buy 'carob and peanut butter' dog biscuits for my dad's German Shepherd so yup, they can have it. And she LOVES the things! [img]smile.gif[/img]
LOLOL...And they come in the CUTEST little mailman and cat shapes.
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Old 11-01-2002, 11:42 AM   #37
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Thanks Willow! Good post!

Saz, I routinely buy 'carob and peanut butter' dog biscuits for my dad's German Shepherd so yup, they can have it. And she LOVES the things! [img]smile.gif[/img]
LOLOL...And they come in the CUTEST little mailman and cat shapes. [/QUOTE]LOLOL!!

Yes, I know, and for cats, they have kitty treats that are people-shaped! It always unnerves me, though, that my mom's cat, Lily Ann, always eats the head off the people first thing... [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

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Old 11-01-2002, 11:44 AM   #38
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Awww, bless! Good thing we're cat people or [img]graemlins/choc.gif[/img] would have us, hmm?

*mental note: make that picture desktop. Am fed up of blue background of windows 2K.*
Glad you liked the picture, Kaltia! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

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Old 11-01-2002, 11:47 AM   #39
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LOL! My cat gets whiskers pedigree bites. he also gets a post man but that's NOt the point
my siamese gets likkle mice stuffed with catnip. They BOTH love the stuff, my mum can't grow it in her garden anymore 'cause they always get it, even in hanging baskets!
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