The elections in Ukraine

dplax · 11-21-2004, 04:07 PM

Found two interesting articles about this on BBC.

First talks generally about the election and the second talks about the irregularities in the first round. Will the same thing happen in Ukraine as in Belorus not long ago? I mean not clear conditions and lots of talk about cheating.

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Dreamer128 · 11-21-2004, 04:56 PM

Well, it looks like the opposition won regardless of the incidents. Hopefully, Yushchenko will turn Ukraine into a more democratic country.

dplax · 11-22-2004, 03:42 AM

Well this makes it look like not everything was totally ok.

johnny · 11-22-2004, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreamer128:
Well, it looks like the opposition won regardless of the incidents. Hopefully, Yushchenko will turn Ukraine into a more democratic country.

Dream on Dreamer. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Dreamer128 · 11-22-2004, 08:22 AM

Right. Maybe I should re-adjust my hopes. Yushchenko might drop the price of Vodka.

dplax · 11-22-2004, 10:06 AM

It's starting to look even worse...

Dreamer128 · 11-22-2004, 11:04 AM

Foreign observers accuse Ukrainian government of electoral fraud

The European Union says Sunday's run-off presidential election in Ukraine did not meet democratic standards and has asked Kiev to review the election results. The senior United States observer of the elections, Senator Richard Lugar, has accused the Ukrainian government of rigging the elections in favour of Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich.

With more than 99 percent of the votes counted, the official results give the Russian-leaning prime minister more than 49 percent of the vote, compared to over 46 percent for his pro-Western challenger, Viktor Yushchencko. However exit polls had shown that Mr Yushchencko was in the lead.

Tens of thousands of opposition supporters have taken to the streets of the Ukrainian capital Kiev to claim victory in the presidential election. The opposition candidate has called for a campaign of civil disobedience in protest against what he says is massive electoral fraud by the government. Two cities in western Ukraine, a region dominated by the opposition, have refused to recognise the official results. They say they recognise Mr Yushchencko as the new prime minister.

(rnw.nl)

johnny · 11-22-2004, 12:21 PM

Don't you just love those former Soviet states ? They are so transparant and open for political changes.

dplax · 11-22-2004, 04:43 PM

Seem like it is starting to get even more chaotic.

Quote from BBC

Kiev city council refused to recognise the results, and urged parliament to follow suit.

Thousands of people also turned onto the streets in the western city of Lviv, where the city council said it would only take orders from Mr Yushchenko.

Three other cities in opposition strongholds in western Ukraine have said they considered the opposition candidate the legal president.

[ 11-22-2004, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: dplax ]

Dreamer128 · 11-23-2004, 05:24 AM

Oh yes.. everybody is shouting.
http://www.euobserver.com/?sid=9&aid=17823

11-21-2004, 04:07 PM	#1
dplax Jack Burton Join Date: July 19, 2003 Location: an expat living in France Age: 38 Posts: 5,577	Found two interesting articles about this on BBC. First talks generally about the election and the second talks about the irregularities in the first round. Will the same thing happen in Ukraine as in Belorus not long ago? I mean not clear conditions and lots of talk about cheating. Link Link2 __________________

11-22-2004, 03:42 AM	#3
dplax Jack Burton Join Date: July 19, 2003 Location: an expat living in France Age: 38 Posts: 5,577	Well this makes it look like not everything was totally ok. __________________

11-22-2004, 10:06 AM	#6
dplax Jack Burton Join Date: July 19, 2003 Location: an expat living in France Age: 38 Posts: 5,577	It's starting to look even worse... __________________

11-22-2004, 12:21 PM	#8
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	Don't you just love those former Soviet states ? They are so transparant and open for political changes. __________________

11-22-2004, 04:43 PM	#9
dplax Jack Burton Join Date: July 19, 2003 Location: an expat living in France Age: 38 Posts: 5,577	Seem like it is starting to get even more chaotic. Quote from BBC Kiev city council refused to recognise the results, and urged parliament to follow suit. Thousands of people also turned onto the streets in the western city of Lviv, where the city council said it would only take orders from Mr Yushchenko. Three other cities in opposition strongholds in western Ukraine have said they considered the opposition candidate the legal president. [ 11-22-2004, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: dplax ] __________________

11-21-2004, 04:56 PM	#2
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	Well, it looks like the opposition won regardless of the incidents. Hopefully, Yushchenko will turn Ukraine into a more democratic country.

11-22-2004, 08:22 AM	#5
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	Right. Maybe I should re-adjust my hopes. Yushchenko might drop the price of Vodka.

11-22-2004, 11:04 AM	#7
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	Foreign observers accuse Ukrainian government of electoral fraud The European Union says Sunday's run-off presidential election in Ukraine did not meet democratic standards and has asked Kiev to review the election results. The senior United States observer of the elections, Senator Richard Lugar, has accused the Ukrainian government of rigging the elections in favour of Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich. With more than 99 percent of the votes counted, the official results give the Russian-leaning prime minister more than 49 percent of the vote, compared to over 46 percent for his pro-Western challenger, Viktor Yushchencko. However exit polls had shown that Mr Yushchencko was in the lead. Tens of thousands of opposition supporters have taken to the streets of the Ukrainian capital Kiev to claim victory in the presidential election. The opposition candidate has called for a campaign of civil disobedience in protest against what he says is massive electoral fraud by the government. Two cities in western Ukraine, a region dominated by the opposition, have refused to recognise the official results. They say they recognise Mr Yushchencko as the new prime minister. (rnw.nl)

11-23-2004, 05:24 AM	#10
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	Oh yes.. everybody is shouting. http://www.euobserver.com/?sid=9&aid=17823

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