American charged in plot to assassinate Pres Bush

VulcanRider · 02-22-2005, 08:58 PM

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An American citizen who had been detained in Saudi Arabia was charged Tuesday in U.S. District Court with conspiracy and supporting terrorists in an alleged plot to assassinate President Bush.

Ahmed Omar Abu Ali appeared in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Virginia, and was charged with providing material support and resources to a foreign terrorist organization -- al Qaeda.

According to the six-count indictment, Abu Ali "did knowingly and unlawfully conspire to knowingly provide material support and resources ... knowing and intending that they were to be used in preparation for, and for carrying out, the assassination of the president of the United States."

Does an assassination attempt on the President qualify as treason?

Sir Degrader · 02-22-2005, 09:38 PM

Hell yeah. Give him old sparky.

Felix The Assassin · 02-22-2005, 10:12 PM

Damn, what happened to Smith, Jones, Harris, and Bubba?

Morgeruat · 02-23-2005, 09:54 AM

A bit more to chew on in this case.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...inee_bush_plot

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He attended the Islamic Saudi Academy and graduated as valedictorian.
The private school's teachings have come under scrutiny since the Sept. 11 attacks. Federal court documents in a case against another academy graduate suspected of terrorism indicate that student discussions following Sept. 11 took an anti-American bent and that some students considered the attacks legitimate "payback" for American mistreatment of the Muslim world.
Last year, the school also faced criticism for using textbooks that taught first-graders that Judaism and Christianity are false religions.

Stratos · 02-23-2005, 10:42 AM

Don't you need to actually set your plans in motion before it can be regarded as an assassination attempt? In any case, I suppose an assassination attempt the President would count as treason. Quite a serious crime, I might add.

Morgeruat · 02-23-2005, 11:02 AM

Actually saying "I want to kill the president" or "I am going to kill the president" can both be considered threats on the life of the president, and as such can be regarded as conspiracy (the actual charge listed in the article

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According to the six-count indictment, Abu Ali "did knowingly and unlawfully conspire to knowingly provide material support and resources ... knowing and intending that they were to be used in preparation for, and for carrying out, the assassination of the president of the United States."

[ 02-23-2005, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]

02-23-2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Morgeruat:
Actually saying "I want to kill the president" or "I am going to kill the president" can both be considered threats on the life of the president, and as such can be regarded as conspiracy (the actual charge listed in the article

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According to the six-count indictment, Abu Ali "did knowingly and unlawfully conspire to knowingly provide material support and resources ... knowing and intending that they were to be used in preparation for, and for carrying out, the assassination of the president of the United States."

[/QUOTE]Conspiracy requires more than one participant.

02-22-2005, 08:58 PM	#1
VulcanRider Lord Soth Join Date: July 25, 2002 Location: Melbourne FL Age: 59 Posts: 1,971	Read all about it An American citizen who had been detained in Saudi Arabia was charged Tuesday in U.S. District Court with conspiracy and supporting terrorists in an alleged plot to assassinate President Bush. Ahmed Omar Abu Ali appeared in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Virginia, and was charged with providing material support and resources to a foreign terrorist organization -- al Qaeda. According to the six-count indictment, Abu Ali "did knowingly and unlawfully conspire to knowingly provide material support and resources ... knowing and intending that they were to be used in preparation for, and for carrying out, the assassination of the president of the United States." Does an assassination attempt on the President qualify as treason? __________________ ----- Help feed animals in shelters with just a mouse click at The Animal Rescue Site !!

02-22-2005, 10:12 PM	#3
Felix The Assassin The Dreadnoks Join Date: September 27, 2001 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 61 Posts: 3,608	Damn, what happened to Smith, Jones, Harris, and Bubba? __________________ The Lizzie Palmer Tribute Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. John F. Kennedy 35th President of The United States The Last Shot Honor The Fallen Jesus died for our sins, and American Soldiers died for our freedom. If you don't stand behind our Soldiers, please feel free to stand in front of them.

02-23-2005, 10:42 AM	#5
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 3,888	Don't you need to actually set your plans in motion before it can be regarded as an assassination attempt? In any case, I suppose an assassination attempt the President would count as treason. Quite a serious crime, I might add. __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

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