Usefullness of the Harper Scout

Neo the Warrior Cat · 07-12-2005, 11:15 AM

Just an open-ended question, are Harper Scout levels worth it?

Or are they just a monumental waste of time no matter what build you're going for?

shadowolf03 · 07-12-2005, 11:44 AM

Please don't mention the Harper Scout in my presence....

shadowolf03 · 07-12-2005, 11:46 AM

(lol) In other words, I believe it to be a TOTAL waste of a potentially good Class choice.

robertthebard · 07-12-2005, 11:59 AM

As much as I hate to say this, I do believe it to be a total waste of time, energy, and hard drive space...I tried one, and found no practical use for it.

J'aran · 07-12-2005, 12:48 PM

I've had quite a bit of fun with a Paladin/Harper Scout. The Eagle's Splendor ability obviously goes quite well with the Paladin's charisma-related boni, Invisibility can come in handy from time to time, and the other stuff, although indeed only moderately useful, adds a bit of flavor to you run-of-the-mill vanilla Paladin.

You can do a lot worse, character-wise, both from roleplaying and powergaming points of view.

Legolas · 07-12-2005, 12:49 PM

Under very specific conditions, they may be slightly superior to other classes. But usually, no. Not worth it.

In fact there are only three reasons to play a harper scout.
The first is to find out for yourself that it's not worth it.
The second is because the module/DM either requires you to play a HS for storyline reasons or grants them additional bonusses beyond what the prestige class offers.
The third is because you're on a quest to make the least potent high level character possible.

Micah Foehammer · 07-12-2005, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'aran:
I've had quite a bit of fun with a Paladin/Harper Scout. The Eagle's Splendor ability obviously goes quite well with the Paladin's charisma-related boni, Invisibility can come in handy from time to time, and the other stuff, although indeed only moderately useful, adds a bit of flavor to you run-of-the-mill vanilla Paladin.

You can do a lot worse, character-wise, both from roleplaying and powergaming points of view.

Adding fighter and/or COT levels to a paladin makes a lot more sense. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Neo the Warrior Cat · 07-12-2005, 05:06 PM

Meh, you only get 5 levels of Scout anyways.

So then you can add COT levels after that.

(Would have liked to see the Scout having more levels to it than merely 5.)

Chewbacca · 07-12-2005, 05:13 PM

Wasnt the HS a last minute replacemnt for a different prestige class that got nixxed? Or was it nerfed in order to conform to WOTC and 3ed rules?

I recall reading something like that somewhere a long while back when SOU first came out.

T-D-C · 07-12-2005, 07:50 PM

Actually Harper scout is alright for only 5 levels if they are taken in Epic.

1) they get great dex and great cha as epic bonus feats

2) Their buffing abilities (tymora smile etc) stack with other spells.

I have used those 5 levels in 1 or two builds in EFU and they turn out pretty well.

07-12-2005, 11:15 AM	#1
Neo the Warrior Cat Avatar Join Date: July 6, 2004 Location: Wilmington, North Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 528	Just an open-ended question, are Harper Scout levels worth it? Or are they just a monumental waste of time no matter what build you're going for? __________________ \"I haven\'t the time for this!\"-Irenicus <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[mage1]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/mage1.gif\" />

07-12-2005, 11:44 AM	#2
shadowolf03 Drow Warrior Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: UK Age: 39 Posts: 258	Please don't mention the Harper Scout in my presence.... __________________ Knowing how to be an adult is knowing when to be a child.

07-12-2005, 11:46 AM	#3
shadowolf03 Drow Warrior Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: UK Age: 39 Posts: 258	(lol) In other words, I believe it to be a TOTAL waste of a potentially good Class choice. __________________ Knowing how to be an adult is knowing when to be a child.

07-12-2005, 11:59 AM	#4
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 60 Posts: 4,537	As much as I hate to say this, I do believe it to be a total waste of time, energy, and hard drive space...I tried one, and found no practical use for it. __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Good Music: Here. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

07-12-2005, 05:06 PM	#8
Neo the Warrior Cat Avatar Join Date: July 6, 2004 Location: Wilmington, North Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 528	Meh, you only get 5 levels of Scout anyways. So then you can add COT levels after that. (Would have liked to see the Scout having more levels to it than merely 5.) __________________ \"I haven\'t the time for this!\"-Irenicus <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[mage1]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/mage1.gif\" />

07-12-2005, 12:48 PM	#5
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 44 Posts: 1,493	I've had quite a bit of fun with a Paladin/Harper Scout. The Eagle's Splendor ability obviously goes quite well with the Paladin's charisma-related boni, Invisibility can come in handy from time to time, and the other stuff, although indeed only moderately useful, adds a bit of flavor to you run-of-the-mill vanilla Paladin. You can do a lot worse, character-wise, both from roleplaying and powergaming points of view.

07-12-2005, 12:49 PM	#6
Legolas Jack Burton Join Date: March 31, 2001 Location: The zephyr lands beneath the brine. Age: 39 Posts: 5,459	Under very specific conditions, they may be slightly superior to other classes. But usually, no. Not worth it. In fact there are only three reasons to play a harper scout. The first is to find out for yourself that it's not worth it. The second is because the module/DM either requires you to play a HS for storyline reasons or grants them additional bonusses beyond what the prestige class offers. The third is because you're on a quest to make the least potent high level character possible.

07-12-2005, 05:13 PM	#9
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 50 Posts: 5,373	Wasnt the HS a last minute replacemnt for a different prestige class that got nixxed? Or was it nerfed in order to conform to WOTC and 3ed rules? I recall reading something like that somewhere a long while back when SOU first came out. __________________ Support Local Music and Record Stores! Got Liberty?

07-12-2005, 07:50 PM	#10
T-D-C Ironworks Moderator Join Date: October 26, 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 43 Posts: 4,415	Actually Harper scout is alright for only 5 levels if they are taken in Epic. 1) they get great dex and great cha as epic bonus feats 2) Their buffing abilities (tymora smile etc) stack with other spells. I have used those 5 levels in 1 or two builds in EFU and they turn out pretty well. __________________

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