Some Friends.....................

[Charean]

Originally posted by SomeGuy: Boy do i have nice friends or what?I get all warm and fuzzy evry time they say "Andrew your to stupid to be serious!"Or anything else that involves being able to make fun of me.I just about cry of happiness when they say "Andrew,your drawings are stupid."I'm the best drawer in the school(well except some of the teachers.)Or they say that Manga is pronouced Man-Gay.Or when they make fun of me and make rumors or tell my secrets and when I yell at them for telling they say "I thought you said we could tell.".I'm serious my friends are jerks.I just want to say that my real friends are right here on Ironworks.You guys respect me,help me,and comfort me when I'm troubled or worried.My best friend that is moving is the only one that gives me the respect i want.Before i got on IW(Ironworks for those who don't know.) in the 4th grade I thought hard about suicide.Yes,suicide.I wanted to comite suicide'but I thought about all I had before me.Especially my family.And you guys.You guys are like family to me.I'm glad I met ya.I've gotten so mad at a friend that I punched him and got in deep trouble. [img]graemlins/imtough.gif[/img]

SomeGuy, I want you to know that I relate really strongly to what you are saying. The part later about you being semi-popular I cannot relate to, however. Just know that there are others who have been there, where you are now - and wonder how the heck they lived through school knowing that their "friends" haven't a clue to what they are really about.

My only friends in school were my music and my books. (Mind you, this was years ago before the internet was even thought of.) I wondered many times how I would get through the next day, knowing that I was either going to be embarrassed horribly or picked on. The only advice to get through it is to "Consider the Source" of these people. If they are not important to you, or people YOU respect, discount what they say as unimportant.

Even if you consider these guys your friends, know that unless you have a real bond, after school is over, they disappear out of your life. People do that.

I hope you continue to know that IronWorks will be here for you. These folks are the best.

(Just to finish, I ended up popular in College and after - I was quite the philosopher and pioneer. This helped me later on. I am lucky now I have true friends, those that are there for you no matter what. I wish the same for everyone.)

[ 05-20-2002, 06:35 PM: Message edited by: Charean ]

[johnny]

Originally posted by Daniel: quote: Originally posted by johnny: never, ever think of suicide dude, life is just too beautiful !

thats somthing i can't agree on more, life is beautiful [img]smile.gif[/img] (but then again most of my mates think i'm a hippy)[/QUOTE]so what's wrong with that ? The hippie way of life doesn't sound that bad, those guys never seem to have any problems, and if they do they turn to mr. Ganja for advice, and the probs are gone again.

[RudeDawg]

Originally posted by SomeGuy: But i can't kick the crap out of this guy.He is still my friend.He only does this to make sure he keeps his other friends.You see at my school there is a chart like thingy mabobber. Ya see this is it. pretty girls are popular to evryone but about half of the boys.pretty boys are friends with everyone.ugly girls are friends with other ugly girls and a few of the ugly boys.semi ugly and semi pretty girls hang out with there own groups.semi ugly and semi pretty boys hang out with the semi pretty semi ugly girls.I'm a semi popular person.Friendz with a few of the pretty girls and boys.Friends with the jocks.Friend to all of the semi's.That's about it.My friend Glenn is the person who basicly leads all my friend and the jocks.I would'nt want to hurt him.Me and him have been friends sinse kindergarten.He is still my friend

SomeGuy. Everything I've read from you in other threads has always made me think of you as a GreatGuy. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
Last year I went on a rant about the "High School" mentality that I felt on some of the boards I spent time on. It's the same thing you are describing. The thing is, as was pointed out to me by our beloved Sazerac, WE decide who we spend time with. "You can't choose your family, but you can choose your friends." [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]
Read what everyone here is saying. WE love you, and that tells me that there are some people there who love you as well.
The hard thing is: you may need to walk away from your "friends". Talk to Glenn, but DON'T let them bring you down. Find some people who you can respect, and earn their respect. You'll love yourself for it.

[Sazerac]

Originally posted by RudeDawg: SomeGuy. Everything I've read from you in other threads has always made me think of you as a GreatGuy. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] Last year I went on a rant about the "High School" mentality that I felt on some of the boards I spent time on. It's the same thing you are describing. The thing is, as was pointed out to me by our beloved Sazerac, WE decide who we spend time with. "You can't choose your family, but you can choose your friends." [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Hey, RudeDawg! You think you can find that old thread? It may be worth a rehash. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Cheers,
-Saz

[ 05-20-2002, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: Sazerac ]

[RudeDawg]

Originally posted by Sazerac: Hey, RudeDawg! You think you can find that old thread? It may be worth a rehash. [img]smile.gif[/img] Cheers, -Saz

Here's the link!
The "High School" Syndrome

[Lord of Alcohol]

Someguy sounds like you need better friends. Any teasing you get here is playful, hope you take it that way. Feel free to tease me back [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Epona]

SomeGuy, I can relate.

I went through it at school, similar to what you describe. The reason was I looked and acted like a victim. I had no self-confidence whatsoever, was quiet and shy (ppl I know now would find that very hard to believe), and walked round mostly looking at the floor and looking miserable. I seriously over-reacted when I got teased, which made it all the more fun for those teasing me.

Believe in yourself. This is so important. If you generate an air of confidence, others will believe in you too. I didn't for so much of my childhood and teens. I really felt I would fail at everything I tried. Bullies can sense that feeling of defeat. One day (a while after I had left school) I decided enough is enough, and started to find things to do that made me feel good about myself. There was no major event in my life that brought me to this conclusion, it was just something I consciously tried to do for myself. I now have the utter confidence in my ability to handle anything that comes my way. I can be myself, totally, and if other people don't like that, then screw them. Even when I feel scared I never show it or give in to it.

Your friend is not a friend if he does that to you. Ignore him. Forget the popularity he brings you when you are part of his crowd. You have to believe in *yourself* and your own ability to make friends and be popular in your own right. Force yourself to be outgoing, find those bits of your personality or things about yourself you like, and concentrate on those. Be yourself - it's the only way to be truly happy IMO. Might not be easy at first, but it soon becomes second nature. If other people don't like who you really are, that is *their* problem, don't make it yours! They don't matter if they are that shallow. And keep smiling [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Cloudbringer]

Hey Andrew! Sounds like your friend is trying to 'fit in' but in the wrong way. I think Ziroc is right, keep drawing. You should do what makes you feel right, not what anyone else tells you to do or tells you is cool. If you enjoy it, then do it for yourself!

And here at IW, people may tease, like LoA said, but when all is said and done, most of us care and that's the important thing to rememember. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[uss]

Originally posted by SomeGuy: But i can't kick the crap out of this guy.He is still my friend.He only does this to make sure he keeps his other friends.You see at my school there is a chart like thingy mabobber. Ya see this is it. pretty girls are popular to evryone but about half of the boys.pretty boys are friends with everyone.ugly girls are friends with other ugly girls and a few of the ugly boys.semi ugly and semi pretty girls hang out with there own groups.semi ugly and semi pretty boys hang out with the semi pretty semi ugly girls.I'm a semi popular person.Friendz with a few of the pretty girls and boys.Friends with the jocks.Friend to all of the semi's.That's about it.My friend Glenn is the person who basicly leads all my friend and the jocks.I would'nt want to hurt him.Me and him have been friends sinse kindergarten.He is still my friend

ah, hi, SomeGuy!
belive it or not, im having a VERY similar thing. i also have "friends" and my true friend. this a**hole known as Glenn is NOT to be trusted. i have my own Glenn here, his name is Jon. Jon is a very popular and socially greedy person(by socially greedy i mean that he always talks back at others, mostly me, insults them and so on). he and i have been great friends when were at my place(he has come over to my house for the night about 20-40 times) but when i was in the presence of other ppl, he treats me much, much worse. why? because he is popular and i am not. therefore, i hate him. he mostly came over at my place so he could go to the internet, check his mail, go to the chatroom and play comp. games. Jon and i are history, thank god.

btw, i once had a time when i even was popular. it was because in my class, i have many boys that laugh at many things. they see a person that looks in some way diffirent than others, and they laugh their asses off. i did everykinds of crazy stuff like shout "Whazzup!?" and they just laugh. i really got to be, in some way, their friends. so remember: dont let Glenn(slash Jon) look like he is your friend. if he makes fun of you to be more popular, he is a total jerk!

btw btw, dont you think you were a bit too hard on TheThing, Ziroc?? i think that what he wrote was kinda logical. you get a way of choosing between being really nice or a real bitch when you meet the "friend" and if you keep thinking KILL "friend"(whoever he is) it makes you think about the bad stuff hes done.

[Cloudbringer]

uss- Please do not question Ziroc's decision. It has been made and doing so puts you in the same position TheThing was in and breaks TOS. Don't question the Mod/Webmaster's decisions on the board. Email such questions.