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Old 08-14-2003, 04:02 PM   #11
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Don't you hate it when people are telling you how to do your job? The same goes to the people who ran the government in question.
I guess your not getting my point Paladin. I'm not "meddling", I'm not telling them or any other country how things should be done, I'm not comparing countries to America's standard, I'm not. What I'm mearly saying is that in this day and age, you'd figure a country would change the way it would punish someone, or at least do it in a more civilized fashion.

But understand this, wiether it be their job, their way of life or not, it doesn't make it right stoning a person to death.
[/QUOTE] And what would be suitable punishment?

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Old 08-14-2003, 04:12 PM   #12
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Ok, I'll be blunt here. Adultry is not ok in my book, never will be, but to me it's not something that needs an execution. I don't know what punishment would fit it, no one does, but let me ask you this.

Would you like to be buried and stoned to death? And do not give me that crap about "Well, I knew the law, so I'll accept the punishment." No one would want to die that way.
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Old 08-14-2003, 11:08 PM   #13
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Gangrell unless you were born, and raised in Nigeria, your opinion is nothing more than opinion. You have no right to decide what is and is not the appropriate punishment for them. They will decide that. You can claim all you want that it's wrong, but as long as they think its right, you will always be wrong in their minds. And don't raise the question of whether the Nigerians think its right. Either they do or they are in no position to openly question their current government.

Last I checked criminals give up any kind of rights. The only reason criminals live such good lives in the states would be that the government being controlled by its people does not wish to offend its people. The criminal gets little or no choice as to what their sentence will be. The only exception being the rare minor violations of law for service hours and a fine or jail time, and the occasional deathrow inmate who gets to pick injection or chair.

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Old 08-14-2003, 11:29 PM   #14
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Gangrell unless you were born, and raised in Nigeria, your opinion is nothing more than opinion.
Yes, I'm quite aware of that, thats what I've been getting across this entire time.

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You have no right to decide what is and is not the appropriate punishment for them. They will decide that.
Seriously, where do you all get this from? I'm not saying I have the "right" to tell them what to do, I'm not "meddling" to change their ways, I'm stating my opinion like you all are. I just think it's harsh for someone to endure that kind of treatment, now Fire, you could argue all you want with me saying how their goverment is set up, how they think and such, but it's not changing my outlook on it.
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Old 08-14-2003, 11:32 PM   #15
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I guess your not getting my point Paladin. I'm not "meddling", I'm not telling them or any other country how things should be done, I'm not comparing countries to America's standard, I'm not. What I'm mearly saying is that in this day and age, you'd figure a country would change the way it would punish someone, or at least do it in a more civilized fashion.

But understand this, wiether it be their job, their way of life or not, it doesn't make it right stoning a person to death.
And who are we to say what is right or wrong for them to set the rules and run their own country?

Do you think I agree with that kind of harsh punishment? No! But I don't think any petition will help. Unless I am a citizen of Nigeria, it doesn't matter if I disagree with the decision of the Nigerian Court and signing petition will not help either.

Heck, even IF I am the citizen of Nigeria, the voice of myself alone will not change anything.

Yeah, the punishment is bad. It is harsh. It is barbaric. Now let's forget about it and get on with our own lives and pray that we will never be caught in the same situation as she did.

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Old 08-14-2003, 11:57 PM   #16
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I gotta agree with you, Paladin. It's up to the country in question to figure out it's laws and punishments. We honestly can't do anything about it. It would, in fact, be wrong for the Nigerian government to listen to us. They have nothing to do with us, we with them, so why should we possibly have a say in their legal process? I agree, it's harsh, barbaric and IMHO wrong, but my opinion is really a moot point.
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Old 08-15-2003, 01:57 AM   #17
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I was thinking, maybe they should also include petition for every people that is facing death sentence in the entire world. then that would be fair.
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