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Old 08-29-2008, 11:37 AM   #51
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Lav, I found in the Netherspite fight that it's better as melee DPS to just disengage when there are AOE effects (eg hotspots, voids in Netherspite fight) that can damage you and are in the way of you being able to DPS. Obviously the healers are focusing on the tanks and not on melee DPS - so when Nightbane spawns those hotspots and they are in the way (and there's no way to get to melee range for me), it's better just to move away and wait for them to finish right? Obviously once you die you're doing zero DPS so better not to die. I'm used to dying and rezzing because in PvP there's no penalty for dying - I need to change my mentality for raids.
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:40 PM   #52
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What you say is right, dying is bad and = 0 DPS.

But good healers should still keep you up. Especially if there is a Shaman there, stay near the tank for chain heal :p

But if there is no way around it, just back off :p
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:51 PM   #53
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Fight at his big leg, not at his front leg.

When nightbane spawn the hotspot, clos through it and move to the other side (through his middle body) to continue dps him.

When nightbane fly away, use your range to continue attack him.

Do not use blade flurry when nightbane spawn those skeletons. You are gonna be mobbed and be killed. Let the mages/warlock stupidly aoe them.

A rogue can easily top dps on this one if you can continue dpsing him nonstop.

I think nightbane qualify as it instead of him no?

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Old 08-30-2008, 02:31 AM   #54
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YAY WE DOWNED MAG!!!

I ended up with a clicking duty because one of our clickers died and geez it was easy, I don't know how anyone could fcuk it up. You click when he starts casting, then you DPS for about 30secs, then you click again, rinse and repeat. At least our healers managed to keep the tank alive. Got my T4 chest too yay!!
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:25 AM   #55
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Grats Memm.

Now just keep raiding, you'll notice your gear is getting slowly better and better, make sure for raids your PvE spec, and just keep going DPS will increase, and everything will become easier
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:06 AM   #56
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Eyup. Mag is so easy. you can even pug it.



Top 2 in dps. Booyah!
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:14 AM   #57
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Yeah we pug mag regularly, although its been a long time since my main was there.

My warrior and my shaman regularly take part in pugs of Maggy and Gruul, and its usually all good.
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Old 09-01-2008, 02:47 AM   #58
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YAY downed Nightbane so we have now fully cleared Kara! I think we can start farming Nether and Nightbane now. Kak, how do I get higher than 202 hit with T4 stuff?
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Old 09-01-2008, 04:18 AM   #59
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Yeah we pug mag regularly, although its been a long time since my main was there.

My warrior and my shaman regularly take part in pugs of Maggy and Gruul, and its usually all good.
Yeah, what makes it sweet is that I outdamage the T6 Fury warrior who demanded that us rogues (me or another rogue) be subbed with a feral druid so that his awesome dps will be even more awesome.

Guess whose dps is even more awesome?
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Old 09-01-2008, 06:23 AM   #60
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YAY downed Nightbane so we have now fully cleared Kara! I think we can start farming Nether and Nightbane now. Kak, how do I get higher than 202 hit with T4 stuff?
Let me see now.

Assuming you only do Kara,Gruul Lair and Mag

From Kara
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- Worgen necklace claw (Necklace from Attumen) 17 hit
- Steelhawk Crossbow (Crossbow from Attumen) 16 hit
- Edgewalker Longboot (Boot from Moroes) 31 hit (with epic gems)
- Rumulo poison vial (Trinket from Opera event Rumulo and Jullien) 35 hit
- Garona's Signet Ring (Ring from Curator) 18 hit
- Netherblade glove (T4 Glove from Curator ) 17 hit
- Drape of Dark Reavers (Cloak from Aran) 17 hit
- Girdle of Treachery (Belt from Chess) 10 hit (epic gems)
- Ring of a Thousand Marks (Ring from Prince Malchezaar) 19 hit
- Netherblade facemask (T4 Helm from Prince Malchezaar) 35 hit (helm enchant + epic gems)

Gruul Lair
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-Netherblade Shoulderpads (T4 Shoulder from HKM) 23 hit (epic gems)
-Netherblade Breeches (T4 pants from gruul) 26 hit (epic gems)

Mag
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- Netherblade Chestpiece (T4 Chest from Mag) 26 hit (with epic gems)

You will have a total of 290 hit (310 hit with spicy stalbuk)


Now if you do heroics also.

- Netherblade facemask (T4 Helm from Prince Malchezaar) 35 hit (helm enchant + epic gems)
- Choker of Vile Intent (25 badge amulet) 18 hit
- Shoulderpad of Silvermoon Retainer (Shoulder of Mgt Kael heroic) 23 hit
- Tunic of Dark Hour (100 badge body armor) 39 hit (epic gem)
- Netherblade glove (T4 Glove from Curator ) 17 hit
- Belt of Silent Path (75 badge belt) 33 hit (epic gems)
- Drape of Dark Reavers (Cloak from Aran) 17 hit
- Master Assasin's Wristwrap (35 badge wrist) 10 hit (epic gems)
- Trouser's of Scryers Retainer (100 badge leg armor) 43 hit (epic gems)
- Nyn'jah's Tabi Boot (60 badge boot) 30 hit (epic gems)
- Ring of a Thousand Marks (Ring from Prince Malchezaar) 19 hit
- Garona's Signet Ring (Ring from Curator) 18 hit
- Rumulo poison vial (Trinket from Opera event Rumulo and Jullien) 35 hit
- Icon of Unyielding Courage (Trinket from Blood Furnace Kelidan Heroic) 30 hit
- Crossbow of Rilentless Strike (150 badge crossbow) 14 hit

You will have 381 hit (401 hit with spicy talbuk). Now that's over the hit cap.

I didn't mention the weapon as you'll probably pvp for the S2 swords or go arena for S3/S4. Unless you want the 2 fist weapon (150 badge for both).

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