Samuria off-hand weapon choices

fung · 07-11-2002, 07:20 PM

Is the enchanted Wakazashi the off-hand samurai weapon u guys use for the end game?

Really, its only benefits are that it is a sword, it seems kinda weak to me (several daggers in the game can beat it in terms of damage).

Comments?

Greystone · 07-11-2002, 07:45 PM

I don't know about endgame (haven't gotten there yet, heh), but I am using Bloodlust/Poisoned Dagger on my Samurai at the moment (both weapons cursed so it really doesn't matter, I just can't use ranged weapons). This seems to work pretty well, he tends to do more damage with the dagger than he was doing with his basic wakazashi, and his dagger skill is rising quickly just from use. Also, like you pointed out, he will probably have access to very nice daggers as the game progresses (I don't plan to use a rogue character, so really don't have anyone else who would use any daggers I come across).

--Greystone

fung · 07-11-2002, 08:14 PM

I mean the enchanted Wakazashi...not the ordinary one.

The enchated Wak. does comparable damage to the best daggers...but the fact that it is a sword gives it a slight edge I think. What do u guys think. The Enchanted Wak. also comes with 2% kill I believe.

Gimli · 07-11-2002, 08:51 PM

It's what I have used, one less skill (dagger) to have to raise and early on especially it will be alot easier to hit things dual wielding if you have 2 swords. Even later the +25% sword bonus is sweet and has to be considered against any special properties daggers might offer. Any sword the Samurai touches is pretty much instantly magical in the sense that the skill is bumped by 25%, not too many other weapons can say that.

Bomb · 07-12-2002, 01:06 AM

What would you say the +25% is in terms of + to hit? Maybe + to intiative? Damage perhaps? What are the actual benefits of higher skill, other than better chances of hitting, and an occasional extra swing (not that I don't love those extra swings, but is there more)?

MasterPooBaa · 07-12-2002, 01:41 AM

yeah. the enchanted wakashi is proly the best off hand weapon u can get for the samurai.

in wizardry 7 there was an ever better weapon called pandora's wand... but for some reason they decided not to include it in wizardry 8

Kakero · 07-12-2002, 02:42 AM

I always use Fang and enchanted wakazashi for my samurai. I think it's the best weapon I've found for him.

Oruboris · 07-12-2002, 03:40 AM

sad but true: the enchanted waz ain't much, but seems to be the only option unless you switch to a fighter...

Oru

Kerneth · 07-12-2002, 11:10 PM

That's vastly annoying. I don't wanna turn my Samurai into a fighter, but the enchanted wakizashi just doesn't seem to be *that* good a weapon.

Then again, I'm not that far along, so maybe *all* the offhand weapons are weak...

Too bad there's not an expansion or a mod out there that adds some decent offhand samurai swords.

SecretMaster · 07-13-2002, 12:25 AM

I used this Kick@$$ staff i got from the Rapax Treasury. I always got x2 n x3 hits, doing bout 60 damage with high percentages of uncosniousness or paralyze!!! Only prob is no lightning strikes but whatever.
SPOILER

Easily killed the Dark Savant with this staff...

[ 07-13-2002, 03:04 AM: Message edited by: SecretMaster ]

07-11-2002, 08:51 PM	#4
Gimli Emerald Dragon Join Date: January 12, 2002 Location: Moria Posts: 912	It's what I have used, one less skill (dagger) to have to raise and early on especially it will be alot easier to hit things dual wielding if you have 2 swords. Even later the +25% sword bonus is sweet and has to be considered against any special properties daggers might offer. Any sword the Samurai touches is pretty much instantly magical in the sense that the skill is bumped by 25%, not too many other weapons can say that. __________________ There\'s one dwarf left in Moria that still draws breath!

07-12-2002, 01:41 AM	#6
MasterPooBaa Zhentarim Guard Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: OZ! Age: 48 Posts: 332	yeah. the enchanted wakashi is proly the best off hand weapon u can get for the samurai. in wizardry 7 there was an ever better weapon called pandora's wand... but for some reason they decided not to include it in wizardry 8 __________________ Today is a good day for SOMEONE ELSE to die!!!!!

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07-11-2002, 07:20 PM	#1
fung Dungeon Master Join Date: June 22, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 41 Posts: 77	Is the enchanted Wakazashi the off-hand samurai weapon u guys use for the end game? Really, its only benefits are that it is a sword, it seems kinda weak to me (several daggers in the game can beat it in terms of damage). Comments?

07-11-2002, 07:45 PM	#2
Greystone The Magister Join Date: June 17, 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Age: 50 Posts: 111	I don't know about endgame (haven't gotten there yet, heh), but I am using Bloodlust/Poisoned Dagger on my Samurai at the moment (both weapons cursed so it really doesn't matter, I just can't use ranged weapons). This seems to work pretty well, he tends to do more damage with the dagger than he was doing with his basic wakazashi, and his dagger skill is rising quickly just from use. Also, like you pointed out, he will probably have access to very nice daggers as the game progresses (I don't plan to use a rogue character, so really don't have anyone else who would use any daggers I come across). --Greystone

07-11-2002, 08:14 PM	#3
fung Dungeon Master Join Date: June 22, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 41 Posts: 77	I mean the enchanted Wakazashi...not the ordinary one. The enchated Wak. does comparable damage to the best daggers...but the fact that it is a sword gives it a slight edge I think. What do u guys think. The Enchanted Wak. also comes with 2% kill I believe.

07-12-2002, 01:06 AM	#5
Bomb Dungeon Master Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 64	What would you say the +25% is in terms of + to hit? Maybe + to intiative? Damage perhaps? What are the actual benefits of higher skill, other than better chances of hitting, and an occasional extra swing (not that I don't love those extra swings, but is there more)?

07-12-2002, 02:42 AM	#7
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	I always use Fang and enchanted wakazashi for my samurai. I think it's the best weapon I've found for him.

07-12-2002, 03:40 AM	#8
Oruboris Avatar Join Date: April 5, 2002 Location: SW Montana Posts: 575	sad but true: the enchanted waz ain't much, but seems to be the only option unless you switch to a fighter... Oru

07-12-2002, 11:10 PM	#9
Kerneth The Magister Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 103	That's vastly annoying. I don't wanna turn my Samurai into a fighter, but the enchanted wakizashi just doesn't seem to be that good a weapon. Then again, I'm not that far along, so maybe all the offhand weapons are weak... Too bad there's not an expansion or a mod out there that adds some decent offhand samurai swords.

07-13-2002, 12:25 AM	#10
SecretMaster Apophis Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: New York Age: 37 Posts: 4,666	I used this Kick@$$ staff i got from the Rapax Treasury. I always got x2 n x3 hits, doing bout 60 damage with high percentages of uncosniousness or paralyze!!! Only prob is no lightning strikes but whatever. SPOILER Easily killed the Dark Savant with this staff... [ 07-13-2002, 03:04 AM: Message edited by: SecretMaster ]

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