where are all the helms? - Page 2

Malthaussen · 06-20-2003, 04:51 PM

Funny. I was just wondering the same thing myself. I thought those helms were useless! From now on, my ID2 characters will go bareheaded into the fray -- at least, unless something good comes along. HoF mode probably has some cheesy hats for the characters...

-- Mal

Micah Foehammer · 06-20-2003, 05:00 PM

Actually, all of the HoF helms are simply beefed up versions of the normal helms AFAIK. I haven't run across anything NEW in HoF so far, just modified versions of other items.

Malladine · 06-20-2003, 06:32 PM

Lol, "AFAIK"?!

And I think it was better in ID1: non-magical helms should profer at last the protection against criticals. It's only logical!

Micah Foehammer · 06-20-2003, 06:37 PM

AFAIK = As Far as I Know [img]smile.gif[/img]

It's been too long since I played PnP 2nd Ed D&D, but I don't think helmets prevented critical hits in the rules, although they did in IWD1.

Actually, I'll take my chances on getting a critical hit on my characters from time to time IF they can do the same to others. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Magness · 06-20-2003, 10:02 PM

I agree with Micah. IIRC, I remember JE Sawyer (IWD1 & IWD2 lead designer) commenting on this topic and saying that helm protecting against critical hits was a BG addition, not a DnD thing.

ZFR · 06-21-2003, 12:17 AM

Dont forget that in iwd 1 only warriors could use helms... here everyone can... so if it was protecting from critical hits it wouldve been too powereful... like Micah said... if i can score critical hits its only fair the monsters can too..

Dragonshadow · 06-25-2003, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Malladine:
Yeah, I found that. Potion of Clear Focus or somesuch. -1 Con +2 Wis.

Tempted to give it to my monk/rogue, but her CON is already so low. 12 I think.

I thought it was -1 dex?

Kakero · 06-26-2003, 07:16 AM

I remember vaguely, but helms in this game doesn't seem to add to your AC. which is different from other rpg.

Shakesphere · 08-06-2003, 05:43 AM

I found a large vial of stuff that gave my bard 1 permanent resistance to acid (or was it magic?)and resistance to something else also. No other attribute was reduced in the process. This potion was found near the crash site.

Sir Frank · 08-06-2003, 06:34 PM

Because helmets are pretty useless I had Oswald make several wolf hats for me. At least I received some cold protection and a carisma boost. BTW, the cold protection stacked with the cloak but the carisma did not.

06-20-2003, 04:51 PM	#11
Malthaussen Manshoon Join Date: May 10, 2001 Location: Horsham, PA USA Age: 68 Posts: 151	Funny. I was just wondering the same thing myself. I thought those helms were useless! From now on, my ID2 characters will go bareheaded into the fray -- at least, unless something good comes along. HoF mode probably has some cheesy hats for the characters... -- Mal __________________ \"Of two choices, I always take the third.\"

06-20-2003, 05:00 PM	#12
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	Actually, all of the HoF helms are simply beefed up versions of the normal helms AFAIK. I haven't run across anything NEW in HoF so far, just modified versions of other items. __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

06-20-2003, 06:37 PM	#14
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	AFAIK = As Far as I Know [img]smile.gif[/img] It's been too long since I played PnP 2nd Ed D&D, but I don't think helmets prevented critical hits in the rules, although they did in IWD1. Actually, I'll take my chances on getting a critical hit on my characters from time to time IF they can do the same to others. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

06-21-2003, 12:17 AM	#16
ZFR Legion Symbol Join Date: February 14, 2002 Location: Ireland Age: 39 Posts: 7,368	Dont forget that in iwd 1 only warriors could use helms... here everyone can... so if it was protecting from critical hits it wouldve been too powereful... like Micah said... if i can score critical hits its only fair the monsters can too.. __________________ ZFR

08-06-2003, 05:43 AM	#19
Shakesphere Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 30, 2003 Location: Kerala, India Age: 42 Posts: 14	I found a large vial of stuff that gave my bard 1 permanent resistance to acid (or was it magic?)and resistance to something else also. No other attribute was reduced in the process. This potion was found near the crash site. __________________ <br /><b>All aboard for Vega</b>

06-20-2003, 06:32 PM	#13
Malladine Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: June 16, 2003 Location: UK originally, NH US now Age: 44 Posts: 18	Lol, "AFAIK"?! And I think it was better in ID1: non-magical helms should profer at last the protection against criticals. It's only logical!

06-20-2003, 10:02 PM	#15
Magness Quintesson Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Manchester, NH, USA Posts: 1,025	I agree with Micah. IIRC, I remember JE Sawyer (IWD1 & IWD2 lead designer) commenting on this topic and saying that helm protecting against critical hits was a BG addition, not a DnD thing.

06-26-2003, 07:16 AM	#18
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	I remember vaguely, but helms in this game doesn't seem to add to your AC. which is different from other rpg.

08-06-2003, 06:34 PM	#20
Sir Frank Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 5, 2002 Location: St. Paul, MN Age: 75 Posts: 26	Because helmets are pretty useless I had Oswald make several wolf hats for me. At least I received some cold protection and a carisma boost. BTW, the cold protection stacked with the cloak but the carisma did not.

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