10-14-2002, 11:17 AM | #21 | |
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Ronald Reagan slept through his second term? I don't think so [img]smile.gif[/img]
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10-14-2002, 12:46 PM | #23 | |
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10-14-2002, 01:07 PM | #24 | |
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******* I know I had decided not to respond to your posts from now on, but since I can only seem to get in here mondays and tuesdays...I figured what the heck.[/QUOTE]1. You are right that President Bush did not keep Carter from getting credit. President Bush shows no disrespect to past Presidents. I was, as you point out, commenting that the guy who made the comment (I forget his official name or title) put a shadow over the award and politicized something for his own political agenda - which was insulting to Carter and President Bush alike. 2. I can't comment on your assertions as to being "on the line" with Carter in office, but it's something to think on for sure. 3. Regarding the "hamstringing" of intelligence agencies - I do not wish that. I simply don't want civil rights (like privacy of citizens) trampled upon. I'll point out that non-citizens don't have the full protection of civil rights that citizens do, and that my statement is limited to Constitutional issues and the rights we citizens have vis-a-vis the government. As well, I think Congress's recent approval of placing the "use of force" decision squarely in the administration's hands has some Separation of Powers issues. I've not fully explored the text, so I won't go further than to say that I "suspect" a few issues might be there when I do read the full text. 4. I'm always happy to be your sounding board when you've got nothing better to do, Magick. Sorry you'd decided not to reply to my posts anymore - does that mean I won or something? |
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10-15-2002, 09:22 AM | #25 | |
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You were right about one thing, but I was unable to get into IW to post about it. I exagerated when I said Jefferson authored the Constitution, yes he did Author the Declaration of Independance (and a masterful work it was) . He did have a great influence on what did go into the Constitution and he did have input on the documents that set the foundation for the Constitution. If you or anyone is interested in his works here is a link. http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/mtjhtml/mtjser.html. So anyway, enjoy your victory, such as it is. You and Dramnek are really two of a kind. Just a clarification...the comment about you and dramnek being alike is not intended as an insult to you or him, just commentary that I have decided not to debate with people who seem to take your particular....I guess style is the best word, of debating. [ 10-15-2002, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ] |
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10-15-2002, 12:54 PM | #26 |
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Just remember, that besides Gerald Ford - Jimmy Carter was the only other president in our lifetime NOT to have had a scandal while in office.
Think about that. Scary.
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Not so, MagicK. I remember the post you got "fed up" with, and I remember my stance on it. Form over function was what I was trying to get you not to do on that particular post. On a forum like this, the "form" of argument is loose - and an unfair thing to attack. If I wanted "form over substance" discussions, I wouldn't take breaks from my legal work to make these posts.
So, I think you and I are at an en passe of "no, you did," "no, you did" regarding that post. Suffice to say I will not generally adopt a formative stance on *these* pages - I'll save that for judges and lawyers. [ 10-15-2002, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ] |
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