BG II in IDW II engine?

Dreamer128 · 01-08-2006, 05:53 AM

I seem to recall that a while ago, a few modders were trying to allow players to play Baldurs Gate II with the Icewind Dale II engine. Does anyone know if anything good ever came out of this? [img]smile.gif[/img]

JrKASperov · 01-08-2006, 05:58 AM

No. The Icewind Gate module is to be found at weidu.org, but it's full of holes and super unbalanced. They gave EVERY monster some levels of rogue for some reason, causing every monster to sneak attack you. A normal golem does enough damage by itself, but when it gets 15 sneak attack on top of that, it's just no fun anymore.

Dreamer128 · 01-08-2006, 06:28 AM

I see. Well, that's a shame. The idea was great. Perhaps I'll try BGTutu instead. [img]smile.gif[/img]

timothy trotter · 01-08-2006, 06:07 PM

that would be cool if it worked, i liked the feats options and how you got extra stat points as you progressed in level. the dex modifier for armour made more sense too.

Sir Degrader · 01-12-2006, 09:37 PM

Anyone know if its still a work in progress?

JrKASperov · 01-13-2006, 05:15 AM

Well officially it is I believe, but the forum has been quite dead for over a year, and I haven't noticed anyone releasing any info during that time.

Jerr Conner · 01-22-2006, 12:52 AM

I like the idea except that they keep the old BGII weapon sprites. I really find the BGII weapons repulsive most of the time.

Also, I'm a bit worried on how stats are handled for NPCs.

[ 01-22-2006, 12:52 AM: Message edited by: Jerr Conner ]

timothy trotter · 01-22-2006, 06:42 AM

because they would get better as the game progresses, and make it un balanced? I prefer the way bg has portraits down the right hand side of the screen, instead of little ones in the corner, although the changeable interface if IWD is good!

Jerr Conner · 01-22-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by timothy trotter:
because they would get better as the game progresses, and make it un balanced? I prefer the way bg has portraits down the right hand side of the screen, instead of little ones in the corner, although the changeable interface if IWD is good!

The thing about IWDII's engine is that the more you progress, the better (harder) some monsters get. I think that using that engine wouldn't neccessarily unbalance the game. The engine is set to make the game a bit harder as the party levels. Sure, by only adding more monsters, but this matters when in some battles your party will be facing more demons.

And admitedly, BGII seems a bit unbalanced when you get to the uber levels and can kill bosses quite easily (other than the main ones, Irenicus and Mellisan.)

What I was getting at with stats is that in BGII, most players are used to characters having certain stats through all of the game. This changes when every 4 levels you get to up stats for a character. This means that stats would have to be changed at the beginning to make the game more balance. Also the other problem, IMO, is the 3rd Edition Rules.

I love the 3rd edition rules. It's great that 3rd edition rules allow classes to use any weapon they wish. I also love the feats. However, how will NPCs multi-class? I mean, it'd seem very out of place to multi-class Mazzy Fentan into a Fighter/Cleric of Mask.

Though from what I've read Ice Gate II is unbalanced in that every monster can sneak attack.

timothy trotter · 01-23-2006, 02:34 AM

sorry, i dodn't make myself clear, i was thinking it, but didn't mention it, i was refering to the point you made about gaining stat points

01-08-2006, 05:58 AM	#2
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 38 Posts: 1,701	No. The Icewind Gate module is to be found at weidu.org, but it's full of holes and super unbalanced. They gave EVERY monster some levels of rogue for some reason, causing every monster to sneak attack you. A normal golem does enough damage by itself, but when it gets 15 sneak attack on top of that, it's just no fun anymore. __________________ God is in the rain.

01-08-2006, 06:07 PM	#4
timothy trotter Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: December 29, 2004 Location: south australia Age: 42 Posts: 603	that would be cool if it worked, i liked the feats options and how you got extra stat points as you progressed in level. the dex modifier for armour made more sense too. __________________ Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!<br />You will stay in the comfy chair until lunchtime, with only a cup of coffee at 11!

01-13-2006, 05:15 AM	#6
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 38 Posts: 1,701	Well officially it is I believe, but the forum has been quite dead for over a year, and I haven't noticed anyone releasing any info during that time. __________________ God is in the rain.

01-22-2006, 12:52 AM	#7
Jerr Conner Silver Dragon Join Date: January 24, 2002 Location: Mundania Age: 42 Posts: 1,634	I like the idea except that they keep the old BGII weapon sprites. I really find the BGII weapons repulsive most of the time. Also, I'm a bit worried on how stats are handled for NPCs. [ 01-22-2006, 12:52 AM: Message edited by: Jerr Conner ] __________________ <b>Founder of the NPC Defender Force</b>, <b>Affiliate of the Pro-Mazzy Society</b><br />\"I hate to admit it but you\'ve earned my respect.\"--Shar-Teel (Thanks for this Illumina Drathiran\'ar)<br /> [img]\"http://userpic.livejournal.com/14048184/35120\" alt=\" - \" />

01-22-2006, 06:42 AM	#8
timothy trotter Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: December 29, 2004 Location: south australia Age: 42 Posts: 603	because they would get better as the game progresses, and make it un balanced? I prefer the way bg has portraits down the right hand side of the screen, instead of little ones in the corner, although the changeable interface if IWD is good! __________________ Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!<br />You will stay in the comfy chair until lunchtime, with only a cup of coffee at 11!

01-08-2006, 05:53 AM	#1
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	I seem to recall that a while ago, a few modders were trying to allow players to play Baldurs Gate II with the Icewind Dale II engine. Does anyone know if anything good ever came out of this? [img]smile.gif[/img]

01-08-2006, 06:28 AM	#3
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	I see. Well, that's a shame. The idea was great. Perhaps I'll try BGTutu instead. [img]smile.gif[/img]

01-12-2006, 09:37 PM	#5
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 63 Posts: 2,871	Anyone know if its still a work in progress?

01-23-2006, 02:34 AM	#10
timothy trotter Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: December 29, 2004 Location: south australia Age: 42 Posts: 603	sorry, i dodn't make myself clear, i was thinking it, but didn't mention it, i was refering to the point you made about gaining stat points __________________ Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!<br />You will stay in the comfy chair until lunchtime, with only a cup of coffee at 11!

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