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04-02-2001, 09:14 AM | #73 | |
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Your point is particularly valid with Germany/Poland, given that Poland as a nation has particularly unstable borders, throughout history Poland has been reshaped many times, the only part that has been in Poland for the majority of its existance is the area around Warsaw. Another good point occurs when two or more groups of people inhabit a city, using the above examples, what would Danzig by on a 1930s map? Danzig/Gdansk/League of Nations Freecity? The city contained both Poles and Germans, both local, both with a different name for the city. Thus Ramon (x3) I agree with you. ------------------ Holy Avenger of the OHF HATS for sale baby! Sponsored by Yorick Your ad here? Call 112 -221 -123 |
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Bonjour Moiraine,
I'm too lazy to read back through the posts, which side were you advocating, localisation of each country naming places as they find them? ------------------ Holy Avenger of the OHF HATS for sale baby! Sponsored by Yorick Your ad here? Call 112 -221 -123 |
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I agree wholeheartedly with Yorick when he says that it is a matter of politeness to refer to local places with the name the natives give them. However, I made the remark that the 'native' name may have been given by foreigners long ago (like "Gratianopolis" -> "Grenoble" - funny, since the Romains gave this name to make the name of their Emperor remembered, but today almost nobody correlates "Grenoble" with Gratian !). There is also the fact that a native name can be unpronounceable by foreign tongues, so in some cases a 'foreign' name may be better in the sake of communication. Or maybe the translation of the meaning of the native name ? A balance must be found between respect of local cultures and communication needs. ------------------ The world is my oyster ! [This message has been edited by Moiraine (edited 04-02-2001).] |
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04-02-2001, 09:57 AM | #76 | |
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Well said Moiraine, I guess going on the pronounciation its easy to see why soldiers in world war one called Ypres "wipers". Ypres isn't so easy in English Still the problem remains in English where even we pronounce our own place names differently to there spelling e.g. Worcester ------------------ Holy Avenger of the OHF HATS for sale baby! Sponsored by Yorick Your ad here? Call 112 -221 -123 |
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(I had this done to me in France when I mispronounced a place name and I didn't even bat an eyelid when someone ask if this was the train to Gatwitch airport ) ------------------ Holy Avenger of the OHF HATS for sale baby! Sponsored by Yorick Your ad here? Call 112 -221 -123 |
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