anyone refuse to lose to Selfish?

syrneia · 07-13-2002, 04:34 PM

after coming so far, i could not bear to have my stats depreciated by some demon from hell (or become a fallen ranger from sacrificing imeon) so i found a way around either ending
i hope this topic has not been covered a hundred times cause i am somewhat of a newbie
but want to enlighten those who also refuse to lose the max hp and dex point...
sorry if this has been discussed to death

Cannibal Monkey · 07-13-2002, 04:38 PM

well, enlighten us!

FelixJaeger · 07-13-2002, 05:00 PM

yeh what the hell is it man?
Felix

Willard · 07-13-2002, 05:37 PM

I have one! It is probably a bug though.

After the demon dude took minsc, he could still move around due to spells and equipment, (can't remember which, I think the greenstone amulet and ring of free action, but I'm not sure) so I had him just go up through from his side, opening all of the doors. Then I had my PC go down through one of the halls, without having to open any doors (and therefore not losing any stats) and talked to the demon, who perceived it as a good thing (can't remember exactly though, it might have perceived it as the evil way)

Dundee Slaytern · 07-14-2002, 01:09 AM

Tis an exploit of a bug in the game, and it has been rectified already with the Baldurdash Fixpack.

syrneia · 07-14-2002, 04:03 AM

sorry - just wanted to make sure it hadn't already been covered...
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originally tried 'free action' and regeneration on immy, hoping she might heal between opening of the doors, but Selfish holds her again and she does not regenerate...

next tried her with the boots of speed and though she makes the door, she still takes critical damage and you 'fail'

next was running to the other door and PRESTO!!, you 'lose xp' {though i could not find this numerically amongst any of my characters} and the scenario closes and you can now open the doors without penalty and exeunt...

i don't know if this is 'cheating' but i know that i was not willing to give up my 20 dex taken from ToSC, and i'm happy i found a way 'around it'
hope this helps those who feel the same way ;D

Sazerac · 07-14-2002, 11:53 AM

If you have ToB, there is at least a couple of ways to get that dex point back. That's all I'm going to say, though.

-Saz

syrneia · 07-14-2002, 12:30 PM

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If you have ToB, there is at least a couple of ways to get that dex point back

you mean in the final chapter? or in this situation...
i just so badly didn't want to lose it in the first place...

Sazerac · 07-14-2002, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by syrneia:

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If you have ToB, there is at least a couple of ways to get that dex point back

you mean in the final chapter? or in this situation...
i just so badly didn't want to lose it in the first place...[/QUOTE]Well, one of the ways is in Watcher's Keep. There are at least two others that I know of as well.

-Sazerac

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 07-14-2002, 07:16 PM

Download ShadowKeeper and give yourself the damn stats back, then. Oh, you don't wanna cheat? Well, looking for some way around this test is cheating, all you need to do is make it a bit more obvious and cheat with a program.. Sorry for sounding preachy, but you want to get around this test, but it was put there for a REASON.. namely, would you let a friend suffer, or put your own well-being above theirs? I think it was a good test. And besides, I forget which stats you lose but there are items that increase stats (I can think of items just in SoA that increase strength, dex, and cha off the top of my head.)
Again, sorry for being preachy.. But it's true.

07-13-2002, 04:38 PM	#2
Cannibal Monkey The Magister Join Date: April 8, 2002 Location: Here in England Age: 36 Posts: 102	well, enlighten us! __________________ G\'Blah!

07-13-2002, 05:37 PM	#4
Willard Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: June 14, 2001 Location: Vermont Age: 32 Posts: 1,752	I have one! It is probably a bug though. After the demon dude took minsc, he could still move around due to spells and equipment, (can't remember which, I think the greenstone amulet and ring of free action, but I'm not sure) so I had him just go up through from his side, opening all of the doors. Then I had my PC go down through one of the halls, without having to open any doors (and therefore not losing any stats) and talked to the demon, who perceived it as a good thing (can't remember exactly though, it might have perceived it as the evil way) __________________

07-14-2002, 11:53 AM	#7
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	If you have ToB, there is at least a couple of ways to get that dex point back. That's all I'm going to say, though. -Saz __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

07-14-2002, 07:16 PM	#10
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 38 Posts: 4,673	Download ShadowKeeper and give yourself the damn stats back, then. Oh, you don't wanna cheat? Well, looking for some way around this test is cheating, all you need to do is make it a bit more obvious and cheat with a program.. Sorry for sounding preachy, but you want to get around this test, but it was put there for a REASON.. namely, would you let a friend suffer, or put your own well-being above theirs? I think it was a good test. And besides, I forget which stats you lose but there are items that increase stats (I can think of items just in SoA that increase strength, dex, and cha off the top of my head.) Again, sorry for being preachy.. But it's true. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

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07-13-2002, 04:34 PM	#1
syrneia Dungeon Master Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: canada Posts: 71	after coming so far, i could not bear to have my stats depreciated by some demon from hell (or become a fallen ranger from sacrificing imeon) so i found a way around either ending i hope this topic has not been covered a hundred times cause i am somewhat of a newbie but want to enlighten those who also refuse to lose the max hp and dex point... sorry if this has been discussed to death

07-13-2002, 05:00 PM	#3
FelixJaeger Symbol of Cyric Join Date: May 26, 2002 Location: The Cloudy Town Of Hellview Age: 36 Posts: 1,202	yeh what the hell is it man? Felix

07-14-2002, 01:09 AM	#5
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Tis an exploit of a bug in the game, and it has been rectified already with the Baldurdash Fixpack.

07-14-2002, 04:03 AM	#6
syrneia Dungeon Master Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: canada Posts: 71	sorry - just wanted to make sure it hadn't already been covered... . . . s p o i l e r i i i i i v originally tried 'free action' and regeneration on immy, hoping she might heal between opening of the doors, but Selfish holds her again and she does not regenerate... next tried her with the boots of speed and though she makes the door, she still takes critical damage and you 'fail' next was running to the other door and PRESTO!!, you 'lose xp' {though i could not find this numerically amongst any of my characters} and the scenario closes and you can now open the doors without penalty and exeunt... i don't know if this is 'cheating' but i know that i was not willing to give up my 20 dex taken from ToSC, and i'm happy i found a way 'around it' hope this helps those who feel the same way ;D

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