Building a monk

Dreamer128 · 12-30-2004, 11:00 AM

Question: while creating a monk for my party, I did not have enough XP to invest in Con, Str, Dex and Wis. So I decided to raise my Dexterity to 18, while leaving my Wisdom at 10. Is this wise, or should I alter this?

Marty4 · 12-30-2004, 11:35 AM

Definately change that. No offense, but having a monk with only 10 WIS is putting him/her on par with your mages in melee ability.

Optimal powergamer build:

STR 16 or 18
DEX 18
CON 16 or 18
INT 3
WIS 18
CHA 3

If you don't want to minimize CHA and INT, take points out of strength and constitution. Since monks don't get armor, they must rely on their DEX and WIS for protection. Also, stunning attack and quivering palm use the WIS modifier for the difficulty class.

Dreamer128 · 12-30-2004, 11:53 AM

Ah.. I didn't know that Monks use Wisdom for their special abs as well. I guess I'll have to lower Str and Dex then. Thanks Marty.

Bozos of Bones · 12-30-2004, 12:07 PM

Ease of Use regards monk fists as daggers, so Weapon Finesse is a great feat for them. Yes!
I find it a good balance to have 12/1

20 fo some races)/12/10/18/8. Their ACs are really sick, and altho their HP aren't really great, their AC, Resistance and Reduction later make them immortal. Now if only they could wear robes...

Kitiara · 12-30-2004, 05:35 PM

yes, I find it odd that they can't wer robes without penalty. I find robes very "monk-ish"!

Marty4 · 01-03-2005, 04:30 PM

Of course, if you really want to achieve the ultimate monk AC then you gotta multiclass them with a dreadmaster and sorceror, getting huge wisdom benifits and Tenser's Transformation.

Kitiara · 01-06-2005, 04:09 PM

so if I'we understood BoB right, fists counts as melee? or just small weapons?

what feats do you recomend for a monk?

[ 01-06-2005, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: Kitiara ]

Marty4 · 01-06-2005, 04:37 PM

You need to download the EoU (ease of use) mod to count fists as daggers.

I'd take Focus in a ranged weapon, improved critical, weapon finesse if you have EoU, and other basic melee feats. The saving roll increasers IMO are not needed for the monk, though that is your choice.

Kitiara · 01-07-2005, 09:24 AM

Thanks for the tips!

where can I get the EoU, and what other things does this mod do? If it make them count as daggers, does this mean that proficency in "simple weapons; small blade" is a good choice as well?

javan · 01-11-2005, 09:42 PM

Try here for the Ease-of-Use mod

http://weidu.org/iwd2.html

12-30-2004, 12:07 PM	#4
Bozos of Bones Apophis Join Date: July 29, 2003 Location: The Underdark cavern of Zagreb Age: 37 Posts: 4,679	Ease of Use regards monk fists as daggers, so Weapon Finesse is a great feat for them. Yes! I find it a good balance to have 12/120 fo some races)/12/10/18/8. Their ACs are really sick, and altho their HP aren't really great, their AC, Resistance and Reduction later make them immortal. Now if only they could wear robes... __________________ MAKE LOVE, NOT SPAM!

12-30-2004, 05:35 PM	#5
Kitiara Dungeon Master Join Date: November 30, 2004 Location: west of nowhere Age: 36 Posts: 59	yes, I find it odd that they can't wer robes without penalty. I find robes very "monk-ish"! __________________ ~Kitiara~<br />(the swede, and I don\'t mean the vegetable kind <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Wink]\" src=\"wink.gif\" /> )

01-06-2005, 04:09 PM	#7
Kitiara Dungeon Master Join Date: November 30, 2004 Location: west of nowhere Age: 36 Posts: 59	so if I'we understood BoB right, fists counts as melee? or just small weapons? what feats do you recomend for a monk? [ 01-06-2005, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: Kitiara ] __________________ ~Kitiara~<br />(the swede, and I don\'t mean the vegetable kind <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Wink]\" src=\"wink.gif\" /> )

01-07-2005, 09:24 AM	#9
Kitiara Dungeon Master Join Date: November 30, 2004 Location: west of nowhere Age: 36 Posts: 59	Thanks for the tips! where can I get the EoU, and what other things does this mod do? If it make them count as daggers, does this mean that proficency in "simple weapons; small blade" is a good choice as well? __________________ ~Kitiara~<br />(the swede, and I don\'t mean the vegetable kind <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Wink]\" src=\"wink.gif\" /> )

01-11-2005, 09:42 PM	#10
javan Zhentarim Guard Join Date: September 5, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 65 Posts: 396	Try here for the Ease-of-Use mod http://weidu.org/iwd2.html __________________ When the going gets tough, the bard goes drinking- Bard's Tale

12-30-2004, 11:00 AM	#1
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	Question: while creating a monk for my party, I did not have enough XP to invest in Con, Str, Dex and Wis. So I decided to raise my Dexterity to 18, while leaving my Wisdom at 10. Is this wise, or should I alter this?

12-30-2004, 11:35 AM	#2
Marty4 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 31, 2004 Location: VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,127	Definately change that. No offense, but having a monk with only 10 WIS is putting him/her on par with your mages in melee ability. Optimal powergamer build: STR 16 or 18 DEX 18 CON 16 or 18 INT 3 WIS 18 CHA 3 If you don't want to minimize CHA and INT, take points out of strength and constitution. Since monks don't get armor, they must rely on their DEX and WIS for protection. Also, stunning attack and quivering palm use the WIS modifier for the difficulty class.

12-30-2004, 11:53 AM	#3
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	Ah.. I didn't know that Monks use Wisdom for their special abs as well. I guess I'll have to lower Str and Dex then. Thanks Marty.

01-03-2005, 04:30 PM	#6
Marty4 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 31, 2004 Location: VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,127	Of course, if you really want to achieve the ultimate monk AC then you gotta multiclass them with a dreadmaster and sorceror, getting huge wisdom benifits and Tenser's Transformation.

01-06-2005, 04:37 PM	#8
Marty4 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 31, 2004 Location: VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,127	You need to download the EoU (ease of use) mod to count fists as daggers. I'd take Focus in a ranged weapon, improved critical, weapon finesse if you have EoU, and other basic melee feats. The saving roll increasers IMO are not needed for the monk, though that is your choice.

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