ACLU takes on the Patriot act (finally!)

[skywalker]

Originally posted by MagiK: The ACLU is one seriously huge dichotomy..some times they are right on the money, then they turn right around and shoot themselves right in the ass. I really think the leaders need to take some kind os schizophrenia medicine [img]smile.gif[/img]

That sounds like the Federal and State Governments to me!

Mark

[Epona]

Originally posted by norompanlasolas: reporting neighbours? "anti-american" material for having an antibush poster??? wow, that does sound like mccarthy at its best.

McCarthy, yes - but also I was thinking along the lines of Germany under the nazi regime - report your neighbours if they disagree with the government, get kids to report on their own families...

[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by norompanlasolas: edit: hey, what happened to the post about bushes grades? i cant find it anywhere. [/QB]

It has been DELETED - I assume by Moni..

I used the SEARCH function last night and it produced the Subject Line, but when I "clicked" on it, I got a messsage saying the thread no longer existed.

[ 10-18-2002, 09:02 AM: Message edited by: Cerek the Barbaric ]

[Neb]

Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: quote: Originally posted by norompanlasolas: edit: hey, what happened to the post about bushes grades? i cant find it anywhere.

It has been DELETED - I assume by Moni.

I used the SEARCH function last night and it produced the Subject Line, but when I "clicked" on it, I got a messsage saying the thread no longer existed.[/QB][/QUOTE]Any idea why it was deleted? I was actually rather enjoying reading that thread.

[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Neb: Any idea why it was deleted? I was actually rather enjoying reading that thread.

Can't say for sure. Moni seemed rather upset at the direction the thread was taking, so I assume it was she who deleted it.

[ 10-18-2002, 09:03 AM: Message edited by: Cerek the Barbaric ]

[Timber Loftis]

The "report your neighbor for a crime" part of the act is not uncosntitutional so long as it doesn't *require* such (1st Amendment - freedom of speech and freedom of association, 4th,5th,10th,11th,14th Amendments - right to privacy penumbra). Encouragement is allowed - in Charlotte, NC, the state ran "report your drug dealer neighbor" billboards that were somewhat successful.

It's the other parts of it that are problematic. I thought about posting this exception in my first reply - guess I should have. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

[Sazerac]

Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: Can't say for sure. Moni seemed rather upset at the direction the thread was taking, so I assume it was she who deleted it.

That has happened on more than one occasion in the past, Cerek.

-Sazerac

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by Sazerac: quote: Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: Can't say for sure. Moni seemed rather upset at the direction the thread was taking, so I assume it was she who deleted it.

That has happened on more than one occasion in the past, Cerek.

-Sazerac[/QUOTE]LOL!!!!! [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: quote: Originally posted by Sazerac: quote: Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: Can't say for sure. Moni seemed rather upset at the direction the thread was taking, so I assume it was she who deleted it.

That has happened on more than one occasion in the past, Cerek.

-Sazerac[/QUOTE]LOL!!!!! [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]Her post, her perogative. Rules of the board, friends. Get over it. These oh-so-obvious attempts to rattle her cage should tell you exactly why she deleted it. Everyone has a right to be let alone when they feel like it.

[ 10-18-2002, 10:43 AM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

[Mouse]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: quote: Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: quote: Originally posted by Sazerac: quote: Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: Can't say for sure. Moni seemed rather upset at the direction the thread was taking, so I assume it was she who deleted it.

That has happened on more than one occasion in the past, Cerek.

-Sazerac[/QUOTE]LOL!!!!! [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]Her post, her perogative. Rules of the board, friends. Get over it. These oh-so-obvious attempts to rattle her cage should tell you exactly why she deleted it. Everyone has a right to be let alone when they feel like it. [/QUOTE]Not quite. Once a thread is started it's public property. Unless it goes completely off topic, becomes a flamefest or otherwise spirals out of control, it should be left open to run it's course.

To delete a thread simply because you don't like someone else's views, even if they are sincerely held and expressed in such a way such that no ToS rules are infringed, shows a lack of respect for the members who took the time and trouble to compose and post their opinions.

The proper course of action if anyone feels that a thread is being "hijacked" or that some other posting rules have been broken is to use the "Report ToS Abuse" system accessible via the link at the top of the page. A mod or Ziroc will then give a ruling.

And while we are on the subject, as at this moment, I have no proof that Moni did delete the thread in question so just go easy on the speculation / accusations and, if possible, let's get back to discussing the original topic of this thread.

[ 10-18-2002, 11:05 AM: Message edited by: Mouse ]