04-22-2003, 01:50 PM | #11 |
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hareyquinn, before I go further, have you ever read Bastiat's The Broken Window?
You know that which is seen. After you have read The Broken Window, ask yourself, what is that which is not seen. |
04-22-2003, 01:58 PM | #12 | |
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04-22-2003, 02:22 PM | #13 |
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You misunderstand me. "That which is not seen" is not referring to backroom deals and political maneuverings. Believe it or not, The Broken Window is a one-page primer on economics and politics, from which countless essays and papers, and even entire political philosophies have been launched.
The point was that the cuts in spending are seen. You can address that which is not seen from several points of view. First is that the alternative to cutting services is probably increasing taxes, since this money does not grow on trees. Increasing taxes draws money from uses to which it would have otherwise been placed, whether a consumer buying a new pair of jeans, or a company expanding and hiring more employees. In order to fully fund the social services, i.e., that which is seen, you in effect eliminate jobs and opportunities, i.e., that which is not seen. Bastiat goes over it slowly and with great tact. I would strongly advise reading it if you want to think about things from anything other than preconceived notions. But in a world of limited resources, where virtually everything we do is a tradeoff of various alternative ways of using our time and stuff, the moral of the story will always come down to that which is seen, and that which is not seen. [ 04-22-2003, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: Thorfinn ] |
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I hardly think Clinton would run a campaign on his Lewinski affair, I don't think Jumy Carter would run a campaign on his handleing of the hostages....is it so weird that they will use the positives during their administration...has anyone noticed that despite over 6500 threats of national terrorism attacks from various groups since 9/11 there hasn't been a single successful attack?? Do you really think that happened by accident? I think not.
Say what you like but there have been many threats and none have succeeded since 9/11. One may happen tomorrow or the next day but so far we have been safe. As for the money thing, historicly it has been the Dems that have outspent the repugs, so where was all the whining back then? And as I hear it there is a certain lady congress person from NY of late, who unlike the repugs got to keep her multi-million dollar book deal advance, and who has not handed in a single page yet...who has a war chest that is of dubious origin...so why not go after her? |
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Or, did I misunderstand that whole "read my lips" thing? Both are addicted to spending - wait, addicted is a false word that makes it seem it's not their fault. Both choose to keep spending like rabid Valley Girls with Auntie's credit card. |
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Or, did I misunderstand that whole "read my lips" thing? You misunderstood my post kiddo I ment in the campaign arena [img]smile.gif[/img] Im not saying that repugs cannot waste as many billions as the Dems...I think that by now both parties are quite capable of wasting infinate amounts of capital. Both are addicted to spending - wait, addicted is a false word that makes it seem it's not their fault. Both choose to keep spending like rabid Valley Girls with Auntie's credit card. I completely and whole heartedly agree with you on this comment [img]smile.gif[/img] Edit: My thought is that they should take a number that is 10% less than what the current annual budget is and say this is IT. This is the absolute spending cap, so live within your budget (to the federal government)[/QUOTE] [ 04-22-2003, 03:37 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ] |
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Look out for the hanging chads and brother Jeb...He didn't win the last one and I pray he gets dumped big time in 04.
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Actually, Jeb beat the Damnocrats big time, and I hope he does it again. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Yellow Streak by Michael Tomasky. He sums up what is so wrong with this better then I did. He also lays out how the Dems would respond if they had the balls. Quote:
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