05-24-2002, 03:37 PM | #221 |
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We really should start a new thread for this topic...
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If you look at developed countries (you have to compare apples to apples) the countries with lower crime rates always seem to have a couple of things in common...harsh penalties and low amounts of individual freedoms as compared to the US.
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Cheers, -Sazerac[/QUOTE]See this is what I'm talking about. A founding father said this? Incredible. What do we call road rules? It's giving up the freedom to do whatever we like on the road so that we won't crash and die every two seconds. What do we call currency and private ownership? It's giving up the freedom to take whatever we want, and go wherever we please, in return for the security of trading what we earn for anothers earnings. (Meat for corn) What do we call swimming between the flags on a beach? Giving up the freedom to swim anywhere on the beach, so that we have the security of a lifeguard close by to save us in times of trouble. What do we call having a job? Giving up the freedom to laze about all day, for the security of food on the table, and a roof overhead. I'm sorry, but that 'founding father' was way off beam in my book Sazerac. He's probably the root of many problematic schools of thought. [img]smile.gif[/img] |
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I could have used the example of monogamy - giving up the freedom to sleep around, for the security of a constant companion.
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Majik I would add to the point about societies and low crime rate. It seems to me that countries that have low crime rates are closed societies. Ones that are pure so to speak. Look at Japan. They are not a melting pot. Norway and Sweden are not Melting pots. The US, Great Briton, Germany, The Netherlands and Australia are melting pots. Melting pots meaning they have VERY diverse cultures. Just an observation.
Yorick, would you trade the freedom of speech for security? Or the Freedom of religion for security? That's what that quote meant. Basic freedoms that are enjoyed by all citizens of this country.
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