Hillary Clinton is in - Page 2

Felix The Assassin · 01-20-2007, 11:35 PM

Hu? I mebtioned I was a realist about politics. I did not say I was a pacifest!

Seraph · 01-21-2007, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
Well, the Republicans aren't taking themselves very serious either if you let Giuliani run for office, unless my information about his popularity among the masses has it all wrong.

I suspect your information is wrong. You're talking about someone who was Times "Man of the Year" in 2001, and is still occasionally refered to as "Americas Mayor". A while back Gallup did a poll where they polled people about possible canidates in their party, Giuliani ended up with the highest percentage of republicans "acceptable", and the lowest thinking he was "not acceptable". Giuliani is a fairly moderate republican canidate, which also gives him good (for a republican) levels of support among independents and democrats.

If you want to look at the Republicans not taking themselves seriously then you should be looking at Mitt Romney. There is no way that a Mormon is going to be elected president in 2008.

[ 01-21-2007, 12:31 AM: Message edited by: Seraph ]

wellard · 01-21-2007, 07:58 PM

It dont matter who you guys vote for what I want to know is who the supreme court is going to make president after the electronic vote rigging [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

Morgeruat · 01-22-2007, 01:30 PM

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/171/story_17147_1.html

More on Mitt Romney, if people can get past the religion his record is very good. (but as the article says, there's a flat 17% of americans that would never vote for a mormon, too big of a chunk for the Repub's to take a chance on.

[ 01-22-2007, 01:32 PM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]

PurpleXVI · 01-22-2007, 03:33 PM

Well, to be honest, there's a decent possibility that a lot of those 17% are of the people who would never vote for the Republicans anyway.

I imagine that more Democrats have problems with openly and strongly religious leaders than Republicans(Though this is just a guess, mind you.). And Mormons tend to be, if not necessarily more strong, in my experience at least more vocal about their faith than many other branches of Christianity.

Of course, I could be wrong. Could be that the Democrats are open to anyone who wants to do The Right Thing and it's religious right-winger Republicans who would never vote for someone who isn't a follower of THEIR particular favourite interpretation of the Bible.

Additionally, keep in mind that said poll was from 1999. 8 years is a lot of time for people to change their minds. It also has no details on poll methodology, etc., so it could've been a deeply flawed piece of research. All in all, I wouldn't put too much(Har har) faith in it.

machinehead · 01-23-2007, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PurpleXVI:
Well, to be honest, there's a decent possibility that a lot of those 17% are of the people who would never vote for the Republicans anyway.

I imagine that more Democrats have problems with openly and strongly religious leaders than Republicans(Though this is just a guess, mind you.). And Mormons tend to be, if not necessarily more strong, in my experience at least more vocal about their faith than many other branches of Christianity.

Of course, I could be wrong. Could be that the Democrats are open to anyone who wants to do The Right Thing and it's religious right-winger Republicans who would never vote for someone who isn't a follower of THEIR particular favourite interpretation of the Bible.

Additionally, keep in mind that said poll was from 1999. 8 years is a lot of time for people to change their minds. It also has no details on poll methodology, etc., so it could've been a deeply flawed piece of research. All in all, I wouldn't put too much(Har har) faith in it.

Massachusetts, arguablly the most liberal Democratic state in the Union voted in Mitt Romney as Governor in 2002.

Memnoch · 01-23-2007, 05:13 AM

How much do we actually know of Hillary's policies though? She's got the name, but anyone know how she's voted on various issues?

machinehead · 01-23-2007, 05:29 AM

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c...c001041/votes/
http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

[ 01-23-2007, 05:34 AM: Message edited by: machinehead ]

Iron Greasel · 01-23-2007, 09:49 AM

Throw down your shackles! Rise against those who would be your masters! YOU are the future!

Leonis · 01-23-2007, 12:01 PM

I wish women ran the world. It would be such a nicer place. No tongue, no cheek. I mean it...

01-20-2007, 11:35 PM	#11
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01-21-2007, 07:58 PM	#13
wellard Dracolisk Join Date: November 1, 2002 Location: Australia ..... G\'day! Posts: 6,123	It dont matter who you guys vote for what I want to know is who the supreme court is going to make president after the electronic vote rigging [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img] __________________ fossils - natures way of laughing at creationists for over 3 billion years

01-22-2007, 01:30 PM	#14
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 43 Posts: 5,421	http://www.beliefnet.com/story/171/story_17147_1.html More on Mitt Romney, if people can get past the religion his record is very good. (but as the article says, there's a flat 17% of americans that would never vote for a mormon, too big of a chunk for the Repub's to take a chance on. [ 01-22-2007, 01:32 PM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ] __________________ "Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison

01-23-2007, 05:13 AM	#17
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	How much do we actually know of Hillary's policies though? She's got the name, but anyone know how she's voted on various issues? __________________

01-23-2007, 09:49 AM	#19
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 35 Posts: 1,701	Throw down your shackles! Rise against those who would be your masters! YOU are the future! __________________

01-22-2007, 03:33 PM	#15
PurpleXVI Emerald Dragon Join Date: April 6, 2005 Location: Denmark Age: 38 Posts: 903	Well, to be honest, there's a decent possibility that a lot of those 17% are of the people who would never vote for the Republicans anyway. I imagine that more Democrats have problems with openly and strongly religious leaders than Republicans(Though this is just a guess, mind you.). And Mormons tend to be, if not necessarily more strong, in my experience at least more vocal about their faith than many other branches of Christianity. Of course, I could be wrong. Could be that the Democrats are open to anyone who wants to do The Right Thing and it's religious right-winger Republicans who would never vote for someone who isn't a follower of THEIR particular favourite interpretation of the Bible. Additionally, keep in mind that said poll was from 1999. 8 years is a lot of time for people to change their minds. It also has no details on poll methodology, etc., so it could've been a deeply flawed piece of research. All in all, I wouldn't put too much(Har har) faith in it.

01-23-2007, 05:29 AM	#18
machinehead Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: April 9, 2001 Location: Massachusetts Age: 68 Posts: 630	http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c...c001041/votes/ http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm [ 01-23-2007, 05:34 AM: Message edited by: machinehead ]

01-23-2007, 12:01 PM	#20
Leonis Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Somewhere on Earth - it changes often Posts: 1,292	I wish women ran the world. It would be such a nicer place. No tongue, no cheek. I mean it... __________________ Better run through the jungle! Grrr...

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