Views on death penalty

[Yorick]

Originally posted by Donut: quote: Originally posted by Sparhawk: Furthermore...Yorick There is a little thing called self-defense...I think you americans/aussies are keen on that one with all your guns. If I am in fear of my life...I´d be justified to strike back at the aggressor....i.e. Israel/palaestine conflict...though I don´t agree with Israel on many counts I find the freedomfighting techniques of the palaestinians to be overly bloody, targeting civilian and fantical. In my own little struggle agains the neighbor I didn´t feel threatened enough to strike back but let me assure you that my 280 pounds of muscle would have done the trick if I felt threatened enough.

Perhaps you could fill us in on the gun laws in Australia. Are they really that lax? [/QUOTE]Agreed. That's news to me too.

[Oblivion437]

Well, considering that the Australian government may well have massacred its own citizens to enact gun control legislation, I'm seriously suspicious of THEIR gun laws... I'm talking about Port Arthur...

[Yorick]

Originally posted by Oblivion437: Well, considering that the Australian government may well have massacred its own citizens to enact gun control legislation, I'm seriously suspicious of THEIR gun laws... I'm talking about Port Arthur...

Well you've just lost any shred of credibility you had with that comment. You also confirmed you "paranoid conspiracy theorist" label.

Bryant, the crazed gunman responsible is still alive in prison. That's right. No conspiracy there. No assasains killing him to stop him talking. No life of luxury for him. And yes it was him. No doubt. Identified by countless witnesses. Taken at the scene of the crime red handed.

You are seriously deluded if you believe Australians sitting in government would kill their representees. You've seriously misjudged the social climate of my nation. It's not America. Conspiracy theories are for you guys.

It's a democracy. The move against guns was one driven by the majority opinion. We're not America. We don't need guns to feel safe. We don't need nuclear bombs to feel safe.

Mate... this is the most unbelieveable post I've seen in a long time. It's also in quite bad taste.

[Sparhawk]

Actually I didn´t mean that Australia is lax...I just meant that there is the same ideology of the outback and right to defend yourselve...

I dón´t aggree with Yoricks statement about retaliation...but then again there is a fine line between retaliation and defense...

[The Hierophant]

Originally posted by Sparhawk: Actually I didn´t mean that Australia is lax...I just meant that there is the same ideology of the outback and right to defend yourselve...

Yeah? And you learned this from where? Crocodile Dundee? Steve Irwin?
Jesus Christ man, get a clue...

[Oblivion437]

Yorick, about a year ago I read a few reports from Australian newspapers, and a dissertation on that subject by a Canadian fellow, and taken together, it doesn't sound like a borderline retarded man like he could have comitted it. Also, doesn't he to this day maintain his innocence? A patsy doesn't have to be part of a conspiracy Yorick. In fact, it's better that they aren't, as they don't know any faces or names, or code names. If Oswald really had infiltrated a radical sect of the CIA as Oliver Stone speculates, then he knew names that most people couldn't work with, but others in the intelligence community could certainly figure it out, and certain people would be dead.

Wasn't Bryant found days later, in a burning building? I don't remember, my information is old and dusty and lodged in a far corner of my brain. All I can say is, having read what I did, it seems to me that I have at least a healthy suspicion.

Also, given your Naivite about government, you'd probably have a heart attack at the shit governments do to their citizens...

[The Hierophant]

Originally posted by Oblivion437: Also, given your Naivite about government, you'd probably have a heart attack at the shit governments do to their citizens...

Like what?
I'm keen for you to instruct me, seeing as you insinuate that you are not naieve about such things.

[Yorick]

Originally posted by Oblivion437: it doesn't sound like a borderline retarded man like he could have comitted it.

??? It was quite easy. He had a gun.

Also, doesn't he to this day maintain his innocence?

Check your facts. Any "problem" you might have is that he pleaded guilty 72 times.

[Yorick]

Originally posted by Sparhawk: .I just meant that there is the same ideology of the outback and right to defend yourselve....

Most of us live in cities on the coastlines and support gun control.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Sparhawk: Furthermore...Yorick There is a little thing called self-defense...I think you americans/aussies are keen on that one with all your guns. If I am in fear of my life...I´d be justified to strike back at the aggressor....i.e. Israel/palaestine conflict...though I don´t agree with Israel on many counts I find the freedomfighting techniques of the palaestinians to be overly bloody, targeting civilian and fantical. In my own little struggle agains the neighbor I didn´t feel threatened enough to strike back but let me assure you that my 280 pounds of muscle would have done the trick if I felt threatened enough.

Don't worry Sparhawk, this red neck american gun toter understood what you meant. [img]smile.gif[/img] You're right it can be a fine line between the two, it's a tough call to make.