Pym Fortune shot dead?

[Hanz123]

True. Although I do care about it.

[ 05-06-2002, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: Hanz123 ]

[johnny]

Originally posted by Grojlach: quote: Originally posted by Melusine: I've seen the footage of the crowd at the Binnenhof, and I'll admit I may have had too much faith in the intelligence of the population.

No kidding, they're only one step away from being classified as a cult or a sect... The images of those people rioting at the Binnenhof is by far the most horrible and frightening thing I've seen since the WTC attack... [/QUOTE]i wouldn't worry about them too much, those are hooligans from ado den haag, people with no political interrest whatsoever. they are just a group of sharks, when there's blood in the water......

[johnny]

Originally posted by Hanz123: I am also really interested (not positively) what will happen at the uefa cup finale wednesday. In Rotterdam with a Rotterdam club (Fyenoord) with Rotterdam being the home base of pim fortyun, and the club support not having a all to good reputation concerning public safety.

i've heard they will prob move it to another date

[Melusine]

I hope yu're right, Johnny
I hear lots of people crying about security right now... yeah right, that's easy to say with hindsight
How immature to feel the urge to point the blame, to accuse others of an event which could not have been prevented.

Quite so. Even if Pim accepted the security offered, a determined gunman would still haev found some way to get to him

[Grojlach]

Originally posted by Melusine: I hope yu're right, Johnny I hear lots of people crying about security right now... yeah right, that's easy to say with hindsight

I have to admit I didn't have the feeling of unsafety when Fortuyn was shot. I did however have that feelings when those morons started to riot...

What's beyond me is that someone like Saddam Hussein (possibly one of the most dubious/questionable men alive) can be allowed to roam the streets in complete safety, yet Pim Fortuyn (who is not in the same league) gets a bullet through the head for simply standing by his beliefs and daring to speak up about them.

[ 05-07-2002, 03:37 AM: Message edited by: Arledrian ]

[Grojlach]

Originally posted by Arledrian: What's beyond me is that someone like Saddam Hussein (possibly one of the most dubious/questionable men alive) can be allowed to roam the streets in complete safety.

Different circumstances, Arledrian. If Saddam just walked around on the streets he would have been shot ages ago. And I don't think Saddam ever goes out without a large group of watch dogs and other bodyguards...

Well yes, it was more a figure of speech. But I've just wondered how he's managed to get away with it for so long.

[Donut]

Originally posted by Talthyr Malkaviel: Yeah, he didn't deserve to be shot, they could have just let things run.. he was only predicted about 15% anyway, less then Le Pen got.

The situation is totally different in Holland. With proportional representation allowing many parties to win seats the 15% that Fortuyn's party would have likely held the balance of power in the Dutch Parliament. He would have been part of the Government.