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I'd love to read the bible version they found THAT idea in! But of course - they didn't, did they? I am just totally awed and stunned by what people will accept as true. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Fljotsdale (edited 09-09-2001).] |
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Do you think animals and insects were not dying while they were in the Garden? They were not in the least shocked when god killed animals to make skin garments for them! And how could god tell them not to eat the fruit of the tree because on the day they ate from it they would die, if they had no idea what death was? Bit unfair, that, don't you think? Eve was certainly aware of it - her response to Satan showed she knew what it was. They were evidently in that Garden a LONG time before the fall! They knew what death was, ok, lol! ------------------ |
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When God breathed the Breath of Life into Adam, that breath of life was the placing the Spirit into the body, to make it whole.
Thus Adam awoke, Spirit and body joined. That is what we believe. It was not putting air into his lungs. When I witnessed the birth of my child, they did not breathe into her to get her little motor running, she did that on her own when she came out...though they had to clean the mucas(or whatever) outta her nose, first. But they did not give her breath. Why would God then have to give Adam his? Oh, and please do not make me feel shy about posting anymore. Your taunts are making me feel like I should stop posting. The rolling eyes smilies and other things you are using are offensive. And yes, 11 Million people share my beliefs. All of them. ------------------ Father of the wicked but cute child known as MaryBeth Padre de una nińa bien traviosa pero guapa --------------------- Aisukuríimu ga tabetái desu. [This message has been edited by Larry_OHF (edited 09-09-2001).] [This message has been edited by Larry_OHF (edited 09-09-2001).] |
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I WAS the evil end in that deal...... Diablo did the snakey, I did the "delicious apple" trick.....
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I agree Larry.
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However, although you are perfectly free to believe anything you like, as am I and everyone else, I made the mistake of thinking you believed in the bible as god’s word of truth – which, indeed, you appear to do – and so I was startled as well as puzzled (and, yes, amused, I'm afraid) by your belief that the first man and woman were created without blood. It is certainly not a biblical teaching. Also, when the bible says that god ‘breathed into his nostrils the breath of life’, it meant exactly that. Breath. The original-language word used in that verse and in the rest of the bible’s Old Testament simply relates to breathing, in most instances, though it is also used, in some contexts, to relate to ‘the spirit’. There is no indication in the account of human creation, however, to justify it’s use in that way in that context. Adam was not like your daughter, or any baby, Larry. God created him fully grown from the dust of the ground, and god himself initiated the breathing cycle. That is what the bible shows. Nothing complicated. Adam and Eve were mortal when they were made. They were human when they were made. There is nothing whatever in the bible to make anyone suppose otherwise. If it were not the case, if they were immortal before the fall, what need was there for god to have planted for them the Tree of Life? It was only by eating the fruit of that tree that they would have gained everlasting life. I would be interested to know what scriptures your religion uses to justify this belief that they had no blood and were not mortal. Also, could you give me the title and publisher (the isbn would also be useful) of the bible dictionary you quoted from? I would be interested to read it. Again, my apologies for offending you. It was not you personally I was laughing at, but I have no right to make fun of anyone's beliefs. Please don't feel shy about posting on account of my total lack of tact. I don't know what has come over me lately - twice in the last week I have said something I shouldn't have. I'll try to be more sensitive in future. ------------------ |
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09-09-2001, 09:24 PM | #90 |
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Gosh, well I get amused by the notion that god is punishing at all. I'm compelled to forgive those who project such a human failing upon a concept that could hold only our highest and purest ideals.
But perhaps this is a metaphor to decipher in this tale of the garden of eden. We can erringly percieve God as a seperate entity and imperfect, with human failings. Thus, in our half-sight, we are cast out of paradise, the light of truth. That perfect love like God's is within one and all and that God goes beyond the limited human morality of crime and punishment, Obediance and defiance, good and evil. |
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