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Old 12-03-2002, 02:24 PM   #71
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Sorry to disagree about the "No Kosher Pork" comment.

Pork = Pig = Ham and there is for sure kosher ham and kosher sausages.
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Old 12-03-2002, 02:28 PM   #72
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You know MagiK I am not sure why, but for some reason reading that artical made me utterly glad I live in America.
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Old 12-03-2002, 02:57 PM   #73
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Sorry to disagree about the "No Kosher Pork" comment.

Pork = Pig = Ham and there is for sure kosher ham and kosher sausages.
Erm...you're Jewish, right? I'm assuming, of course, since you keep insisting you are right, and that the encyclopedia source is wrong. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sorry to burst your bubble Wurm...but you are wrong. There is no such thing as Kosher Ham because, as several people have pointed out, Pork isn't kosher. I've asked this question before of several Jewish folks I know and this is what I was told. "If you see something in the store labeled as 'Kosher Ham' or 'Kosher Sausage' then rest assured it's NOT pork. It's probably turkey."

Sorry for the [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img]

OT: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Freakin hilarious. [img]smile.gif[/img] Where can I get one?

I guess I'm just one of the insensitive folks who doesn't give a bloody damn if we insult a bunch of terrorists. Sue me. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-03-2002, 02:59 PM   #74
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On the Kosher comment. Apparently the humane killing of animals in the Koshering process appears to be the method by which european countries are trying to do exactly what I was laughed at for suggesting the west do to arabs.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=29841

Apparently some lessons of the second world war have been lost. It is ok for arabs to live among us, but lets make it impossible for the Jews to do the same is the message Im getting here.
Dont you just love it when people get *REALLY* specific with their racism, then disguise it in 'nice' terms. BLARG!!!!! Self righteous bastards! [img]graemlins/1puke.gif[/img]
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Old 12-03-2002, 03:08 PM   #75
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More on the Kosher comment:

Sorry to you followers of Judaism, but... As a vegetarian, the Kosher process, i.e. letting the animal bleed to death in a slow and painful manner, is cruel and unusual. Drag out your old testament if you like, I find this practice reprehensible. I know I'm alone on this one, but just gotta say it anyway.

And before the peanut gallery chimes in, No this is not the way all meat is processed. There are equally horrible things done in the factory farming and slaughterhous arena, and those are a different (yet related) topic.
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Old 12-03-2002, 03:45 PM   #76
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"...in Norway, where shechitah has been banned since 1930, one of the parliamentarians said straight out, 'If they don't like it, let them go live somewhere else.'"

mmhhh... havent you heard this argument exactly in this board? before judging the straw in another persons eye...
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Old 12-03-2002, 03:47 PM   #77
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regarding the article... it is so biased i cant really make any comment on it. its propaganda and not news...

i bet you also heard this one before eh... [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-03-2002, 03:49 PM   #78
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"...in Norway, where shechitah has been banned since 1930, one of the parliamentarians said straight out, 'If they don't like it, let them go live somewhere else.'"

mmhhh... havent you heard this argument exactly in this board? before judging the straw in another persons eye...
I have no idea what you just said dude. can you try another way of stating what you mean?
 
Old 12-03-2002, 03:55 PM   #79
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More on the Kosher comment:

Sorry to you followers of Judaism, but... As a vegetarian, the Kosher process, i.e. letting the animal bleed to death in a slow and painful manner, is cruel and unusual. Drag out your old testament if you like, I find this practice reprehensible. I know I'm alone on this one, but just gotta say it anyway.

And before the peanut gallery chimes in, No this is not the way all meat is processed. There are equally horrible things done in the factory farming and slaughterhous arena, and those are a different (yet related) topic.
Do some more research on this. it is not a painful process. and the animal quickly becomes unconcious and suffers less than in a slaughterhouse.
I also believe to be Kosher the animal must not be mistreated. In so much as it has to be killed, this is a less painful method than most.
 
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"...in Norway, where shechitah has been banned since 1930, one of the parliamentarians said straight out, 'If they don't like it, let them go live somewhere else.'"

mmhhh... havent you heard this argument exactly in this board? before judging the straw in another persons eye...
I have no idea what you just said dude. can you try another way of stating what you mean? [/QUOTE]what? you dont recognize the "if they dont like it, go live somewhere else" argument? [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img]
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