National Sovreignty and the UN

[WOLFGIR]

Originally posted by Rikard_OHF: Quote: Originally posted by WOLFGIR: Quote: Originally posted by Rikard_OHF: on a side note arent you pissed beyond repair like every day wolfie?

Yeah well... you know I alway blame you my friend!

hehe I see you got the devil you deserve [/QUOTE]Thats not a devil
thats a
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ZIROC GET THAT DEVIL OUT OF MY AVATAR

bah...

btw I've been looking at ouap map again but thats kinda off-topic[/QUOTE]WOW!

Great news man! I guess that this topic needs to get waylead in the manner only the Silver tounged Kobold could do it, or that sneaky dog tempter could do it

[ 03-03-2003, 05:26 PM: Message edited by: WOLFGIR ]

[Rikard_OHF]

no idea what you just said but it sounded funny thats for sure

Originally posted by Barry the Sprout: Quote: Originally posted by MagiK: Well thanks for the posts everyone, the poll has pretty much gone the way I suspected it would, but it is nice to see one's thoughts born out in public opinion [img]smile.gif[/img]

You go fishing, you catch fish. Or at least you do if you have such a consummate skill for it and practice so much.

No offence meant Ray, but what exatcly did you have in mind as a response to this? Especially seeing as over the last week or so all you seem to have posted are quite provocative threads, practically begging Europeans to flame you.[/QUOTE]Barry I laughed so hard at this I hurt my sides...seriously I think I pulled a muscle. I must have attained "Bogeyman" Status with some of you. I kid you not when I say, I was merely curious about what people thought. No ulterior motives, no hidden design, no grandios scheme. If you call being curious about something and asking a question "Fishing" then all any of us ever do is fish when we use the symbol

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As Freud once said...some times a cigar is just a cigar.

Take care Barry and thanks for the laugh

Originally posted by Barry the Sprout: Nothing wrong with it Timber, but it seems MagiK is only capable of posting thinly veiled attempts to incite flames from European members at present. I understand theres a lot of bad feeling about in the US against Europe, but this is getting beyond a joke. Pretty good job o slander you do there Mr. See my earlier reply to your post. Frankly I don't mind the topics so much as the almost smug manner in which MagiK came back the thread to announce to us plebs that we had done exactly as he had expected, in his infinite wisdom. As far as I'm concerned thats practically admitting that he had no intention of this thread being used for discussion and he wanted it to be flamed. I have always liked MagiK, and despite our obvious political differences I think we get on fairly well - but I'm not sure what's up with him at present.

Don't blame me for the results of the poll. I can't help the answers, and please, lighten up. I was curious and asked a question. I am not and will not be held accountable for things you read into the discussion that were never there.

Edit: You say you have always liked me? It was news to me [img]smile.gif[/img] I was of the opinion you rather disliked me all these months. But please, you accused me of all kinds of things in this thread that are and were not true.

[ 03-03-2003, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

[Barry the Sprout]

Anytime MagiK, anytime...

But lets face it, all you've posted for the last few days have been topics along this line - "inquirys" into various EU related issues that invariably turn into heated-discussions/flamewars. And then you come back to the thread with a charmingly innocent expression on your face and proclaim: "Well! How did something like this happen?!?". As if you had no idea that after three discussions on the stupidity of Europeans produced arguments that maybe the fourth would as well...

Remember, I'm not paranoid - people really are out to get me.

Originally posted by WOLFGIR: Well, hmm that is a different and more direct(undirect arpoach father Sorry couldn´t help myslf. But this time I can´t say that I feel to angry with the EU Europe banter since I´m in the posotionm to probably dislike the EU more then MagiK And if we don´t allow topics like this, we will have reached how far? Hopefully with this topic Magik has reached goal and made the rest of us think and turn another cog around the issue. Sometimes these things are pretty booring US vs EU things pretty often are since they are the flavour of the moment, and espacially when the US and the major parts of EU disagrees it is a PR phenomenon of unequaled properties happening, and dealing with the big lying and smooth machinery myself I can´t help to muse over mine and everybody elses opinions here. We are after all too much the pawns of PR. OK., bold and drunkness apart, I will say a thing that I heard from a WW2 veteran regarding Magik and my own disaproval (real or not, I leave to you that find it essantially. personally I won´t hold it impossible I will agree to his next post! ) "Me and MagikK might still both enjoy hunting and during different possibilities we might have been the best of friends." This is a rewrite from an american soldier during the WW2 about the germans they fought. Let your mind boggle

Hey wolfie [img]smile.gif[/img] I am familiar with that letter from the US soldier about the Germans. I thought it a very moving revelation (in its original form that is) [img]smile.gif[/img] Anyway I don't hate the EU. Im just trying to come to grips with their priorities and sensibilities. They are quite different from US versions of the same.

Originally posted by Barry the Sprout: Anytime MagiK, anytime... But lets face it, all you've posted for the last few days have been topics along this line - "inquirys" into various EU related issues that invariably turn into heated-discussions/flamewars. And then you come back to the thread with a charmingly innocent expression on your face and proclaim: "Well! How did something like this happen?!?". As if you had no idea that after three discussions on the stupidity of Europeans produced arguments that maybe the fourth would as well... Remember, I'm not paranoid - people really are out to get me.

Actually Barry, you seem to have missed some o the details of which you are speaking.....I post ONE thread, titled "Has the EU been notified" or some such chiding the EU about PIG Psychology.

Then some people were making some rather annoying personal attacks and trying to derail things making false claims...so my next thread was about a stupid american thing (school related stuff) and titled it "Notify the EU" in a self indulgent bit of comedy ment only for my enjoyment. And then I chose to ASK A Question about the UN note UN, and EU are spelled differently. So you may link the three as EU bashing, but I think you would be found wrong in any court you wish to take it to.

Edit: The so called Charmingly Innocent face....sheesh, all I did was thank people for useing the Poll feature, I made absolutley no comment whatsoever about the various arguments and discussions that followed int eh body of the thread.....can't I even thank people for takingthe time to take part in my poll?

[ 03-03-2003, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

[pritchke]

Originally posted by MagiK: Quote: Originally posted by pritchke: If you look similar things are taking place in North America. For the most part the US and Canada are very similar culturally although we can deny it as much as we like. There are talks, of things like a common NA currency, and identity cards here as well. I doubt the currency will ever take place but the NA identity card will likely be a possibility in the future. Our refugee and immigrant policies are almost the same and it would not be difficult to make them standard, we have many similar standards when it comes to toxic waste, various equipment, and the environment as well. The main differences in creating similar policies would be in compromising on the few things were we disagree.

I have never once heard anyone talking about a North American Currency or ID. Where did this idea come from? I know I occasionally leave the country for business now and then, but Im sure I would have heard of that....[/QUOTE]It had been floating around in news papers up here when the EU currency came out. It doesn't surprise me that you haven't heard anything about it because the US media basically treats Canada as the 51st state.

Here is a recent article on co-ordinated security

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../35673-cp.html

I will try to find something on the idea for a north american currancy but it was some time ago.

[Attalus]

Originally posted by MagiK: Hey wolfie [img]smile.gif[/img] I am familiar with that letter from the US soldier about the Germans. I thought it a very moving revelation (in its original form that is) [img]smile.gif[/img] Anyway I don't hate the EU. Im just trying to come to grips with their priorities and sensibilities. They are quite different from US versions of the same.

"Strange and curious world 'tis
When you shoot a fellow down
That you'd greet if met where any bar is
Or help to half a crown."

[Timber Loftis]

Canada is the 51st State???? I thought it was actually a collection of provinces that were soon to become states 51 through 62 (we don't want Quebec). We haven't acutally annexed it yet have we?

Oh, just so you can see all of this vunderful land we're annexing, go here - but ignore Quebec. Unless you want to go to Montreal, that is. Don't miss out on the club Space (atop one really cool and tall building) or the strip bars.

[ 03-03-2003, 07:23 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]