anti-religious extremist gone too far??

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: You and I don't and won't agree on that subject at all, if you don't remember my point of view, check out some of the old threads. No sense in wasting space here...lol

Well, I have, and I can’t seem to see any posts that are relevant to this,
Perhaps you could mail me, and explain just why that sort of thing is acceptable then?
Or do you just want to go for Agrippa’s Trilemma?

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by Dramnek_Ulk: quote: Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: You and I don't and won't agree on that subject at all, if you don't remember my point of view, check out some of the old threads. No sense in wasting space here...lol

Well, I have, and I can’t seem to see any posts that are relevant to this,
Perhaps you could mail me, and explain just why that sort of thing is acceptable then?
Or do you just want to go for Agrippa’s Trilemma? [/QUOTE]Go Back a Few months to the posts about American Taliban John Walker, and you'll find you posed the same question about treason. Evidently, my statements then didn't leave much of an impression on you...LOL.

[Larry_OHF]

Dramnek...You imply anybody that believes different than you are evil.

Silver Cheetah, trying to justify your words with the defence of "way of thinking" is not legit. You can make posts to support your "way of thinking" without breaking the TOS rules. You could have easily made those posts without rudeness. You are NOT being polite, and respecting another's country...since you specifically posted to "you Americans". You are not refraining from hateful language. See above. Finally, you are not being nice, and I see your posts as antagonizing. I feel you are trying to harass a certain group that feels good giving credit to a God that they feel is part of thier country.

The rules are stated. Please obey them and leave out comments that hurt.

[Silver Cheetah]

Originally posted by Larry_OHF: Dramnek...You imply anybody that believes different than you are evil. Silver Cheetah, trying to justify your words with the defence of "way of thinking" is not legit. You can make posts to support your "way of thinking" without breaking the TOS rules. You could have easily made those posts without rudeness. You are NOT being polite, and respecting another's country...since you specifically posted to "you Americans". You are not refraining from hateful language. See above. Finally, you are not being nice, and I see your posts as antagonizing. I feel you are trying to harass a certain group that feels good giving credit to a God that they feel is part of thier country. The rules are stated. Please obey them and leave out comments that hurt.

Larry, will you please refrain from talking to me as though I was a two year old, please. Essentially, I couldn't give a toss what you think. Are you now a moderator on this board? If not, I suggest you put up and shut up.

EDIT: Where did I post to 'you Americans'? ?????????

[ 06-29-2002, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: Silver Cheetah ]

Originally posted by AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe: I was just reading about a federal court ruling that just ruled the pledge of allegiance to be unconstitutional. in the article in talked about the part where it says "one nation (under god)" being unconstitutional because some atheist father complained that his child shouldn't have to say that. in a 2-1 vote this federal court ruled in favor of the father and prohibited says the pledge of allegiance in schools in the approximately 9 states that this court had jurisdiction over. I just wondered how people felt about this. Do you think that they are taking a perfectly innocent pledge of allegiance too far with this ruling, or do you think they are right to rule that way?

I feel the judgement was right on if there is truly going to be a separation of church and state in this country...same with "In God We Trust" being printed on the currency.

I am an American, I believe in God and am not anti-religion btw

[ 06-29-2002, 05:46 PM: Message edited by: Moni ]

[Ronn_Bman]

Alright everyone, let's take it down a notch. I've been away for months and forgot how enjoyable debating here can be, and I forgot how quickly things can escalate to accusation and insinuation.

Besides, there is no reason to get upset, when clearly, everyone knows I'm ultimately right [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

[Silver Cheetah]

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: Alright everyone, let's take it down a notch. I've been away for months and forgot how enjoyable debating here can be, and I forgot how quickly things can escalate to accusation and insinuation. Besides, there is no reason to get upset, when clearly, everyone knows I'm ultimately right [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

What would Saturday night be without a little bit of insidious insinuation now and then? [img]smile.gif[/img]

[AliCat]

I'm sorry, Larry, but I just read this thing through, and I really don't see an aggressive or overly hostile attitude here. I really think you are going a bit overboard with quoting the TOS and accusing these two of flame-baiting. Let's not look for trouble where there isn't any.

Silver Cheetah and Ronn B'man (sorry if misspelled), there are some schools where you do have to say the pledge of allegiance every day... I happened to be in those schools all throughout growing up! The course I took was to just stay silent during the "under God" words. Nobody really cared -- the rest of the class was loud enough that they weren't going to notice one person just mouthing things. But I do agree that unless folks are willing to say "under Allah" or "under the Goddess" that the words should be left out.

'Nuff said.
AliCat

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah: quote: Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: Alright everyone, let's take it down a notch. I've been away for months and forgot how enjoyable debating here can be, and I forgot how quickly things can escalate to accusation and insinuation. Besides, there is no reason to get upset, when clearly, everyone knows I'm ultimately right [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

What would Saturday night be without a little bit of insidious insinuation now and then? [img]smile.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]SC you kept promising to send some pictures to me of you and Tracey before you took an IW vacation months ago? Were are those pics to tease my mind [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img]

[ 06-29-2002, 06:00 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

Originally posted by Larry_OHF: [QB] Dramnek...You imply anybody that believes different than you are evil.

No, that is *your* insinuation,
What I was saying that is America is not a paragon of virtue, There are many good things that it has done, and many good things about it, but I cannot recall any redeeming features about interfering with Chilean democracy or supporting the Shah of Iran and SAVAK etc.

If I kill an innocent child but say that I do it “to make the world a better place” does that automatically stop it from being evil?
No,
There is gap between what people (and nations) say, and what they actually do